CEO of UnitedHealthcare fatally shot outside of NYC hotel, source says
CEO of UnitedHealthcare fatally shot outside of NYC hotel, source says
Brian Thompson, 50, was outside the hotel on Sixth Avenue when the suspect shot him in the chest and leg around 6:46 a.m.
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It should go without saying that such violence is not good and not supportable.
That said, I also think those who make monopolistic fortunes off the sick while also dictating refusal of care to the sick are categorically not civilians. It is what it is.
Maybe he had a preexisting condition?
Like being a greedy sociopathic bastard?
Most people have pre-existing conditions that make being shot a bunch fatal.
And expect the health insurance industry to act on that.
Well Mr Johnson. We were looking through your onboarding package with Innertrode and can see you have a 6 year old daughter. We need to put her on the Uvalde plan because she is a child and they are prone to lead poisoning and mass hemorrhages which we won't be covering. But if she gets the sniffles, we have it covered because you are family. Also we'll need to talk to you about her reproductive health once she reaches marrying age next year
Death is a preexisting condition.
I mean life has a 100% mortality rate, it’s just a matter of when.
I'm not sure we have the data to support that statement. 8.2B / 108B = 7.6% of everyone who has ever lived is currently alive. Perhaps some fraction of that is immortal.
Disagree with the first point. Perhaps if this happened to an evil oligarch often enough for a while, they'd be less inclined to fuck us over hard enough to make themselves targets. Put a little fear in them as a deterrent. Why should this piece of shit get more sympathy than a convenience store cashier who gets shot during a robbery?
I hope more of the people behind the erosion of our rights and opportunities and quality of life become victims in the near future. Kill a couple dozen of them and watch as a couple million of us get to live longer, better lives. I'll take that trade any day of the fucking week. Anybody who calls this a call to violence isn't paying attention to the status quo violence against millions every day that they're defending. This is a call to a net reduction in violence. A mild fever to defend against a deadly virus. I'd love it if the fever weren't necessary, but let's not be so naive.
Why should this piece of shit get more sympathy than a convenience store cashier who gets shot during a robbery?
Because the mods get off on simping for the rich it seems.
Oh no not violence against the rich! Inexcusable I say!
I disagree with your first point
Violence works.
So far, little else has. Even well executed and thought out peaceful non compliance only worked after taking a lot of beatings and with a bit of luck.
It took a lot of violence to get to the work life balance we currently 'enjoy.'
Sure, violence bad. But violence effective. And if they won't listen to us when we try to communicate our needs peacefully, what else remains?
It's apparently against community rules to discuss violence in any form.
So instead let's talk about giving CEOs bunnies. Everybody loves bunnies and maybe putting a bunny in a CEOs lap will show them the love they are sorely missing.
Give every CEO a bunny. Give them 20. Give them bunnies while their backs are turned, surprise them with bunnies. Send them bunnies to their homes. Let them y know they are loved even while they're away from work. Put bunnies in their beds, in their cars. No billionaire CEO should ever turn a corner without knowing a bunny is there waiting. Let the billionaires know the true depths of our love. With bunnies.
Don't forget to pick up the spent bunny casings. They can lift fingerprints off of those.
you can use alcohol to eliminate those, and there's really no reason to retain those or even the uhhh. bunny cage? if they're properly cleaned, because caliber can be determined just by forensics and is totally useless for most LE to know, unless you're getting really weird with it. yeah. bunny caliber, the caliber of bunnies.
Violence is the reason every judge tip toed around Trump. Violence is possibly the only factor America will listen to. It's certainly the only language they speak.
Even well executed and thought out peaceful non compliance only worked after taking a lot of beatings and with a bit of luck.
And most importantly, with the threat of violence as the alternative.
Peace can work too, but the Ivory towers types need to learn that ignoring peaceful protest, and undermining accountability and regulation, will inevitability lead to violence. He brought this on himself.
Let's give them bunnies. Peace can come when they all have bunnies.
Improvised bunnies in their cars, high powered bunnies 200 yards away in the bushes.
They deserve bunnies.
I have bunnies. They will not give you peace.
You give them to the CEOs, the billionaires.
Bunnies at every turn. Let them know that they can't go outside without seeing a bunny. That they will know the love a bunny can give at every breath they take.
Eat shit mod.
Saying Eat the rich or related phrases is now a removable offense, apparently.
Hey, mod, explain why you keep removing my posts.
Down voting boot lickers. Keep it coming.
Show your colors.
Lol. My comment is removed. Again.
Give all the ceos all you love. Give them big hugs for doing such wonderful work! Praise and worship the ceos. Do not, under any circumstances, kill the fucking parasites.
Edit: Lick them boots.
Killing oppressors is actually a pretty effective way to end oppression.
I’ll send the ceo some hopes and prayers
Self defense is supportable. Unfortunately courts and police will pretend its not self defense.
Juries can decide otherwise.
"IS THAT JURY NULLIFICATION'S MUSIC?!?!?!?!"
Guillotines and the French Revolution disagrees with you. But good on you to pat yourself on the back with your superior morals.
I don't know if it's morals, I just don't have the stomach for violence. That's kind of a weird thing to say to a person anyway.
I just don't have the stomach for violence
That’s exactly what rich people are counting on. They want you to roll over and take it up the ass.
The freedoms you have today were obtained through bloodshed. So I’m not really sure what point you’re making other then you’re not willing to fight for anything.
So you’d rather give up on everything and fight for nothing. Nice dude.
Interesting, are you recruiting me to do something specific with you? Or should we just keep discussing how it's immoral not to do violence on an extremely public forum?
Nah, the more dead
corposdragons, the better.It should go without saying that such violence is not good and not supportable.
I dunno, given how violent United is towards people, I'd call this a case of self defense, honestly.
Fucking hell the mods are on a tear here. How does that boot taste?
Also go fuck yourself, mods.
It should go without saying
Shoooould it thoooough?
I almost commented that UnitedHealthcare doesn't have a monopoly, but that's really only true at a national level. In some US states, they're the only option.
The disgusting profits are a product the health insurance industry, they only make money by denying coverage. It's an environment that encourages human suffering.
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"those who make monopolistic fortunes off the sick while also dictating refusal of care to the sick" is hardly arbitrary, though, is it. It's quite a high bar to clear, that. It's rational too, since they do many orders of magnitude more harm than e.g. a death row inmate, whom society is content to destroy.
Okay, so why is this murder but having a profit driven system that aims to deny healthcare in the name of protecting profits not a kind of mass murder?
Is it not a system designed to let people die if they don't have enough money?... And that same system lobbies government (using substantial amounts of money) to PREVENT lives being saved, does it not?
This seems to be whatever else you think of it, an intentional means of assuring suffering, pain, and death will occur in a massive way.
It's mass manslaughter. Barely one step removed from mass murder. It should be prosecutable, but Capitalism will not allow that to happen.
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This man isn’t the system
This oligarch is the system... This oligarch made the decisions to implement those policies. They are, after all, the CEO.
Bro you really think the shareholders wouldn't just kick him out if he didn't deliver? He's not the owner of the company and he didn't implement this political system
The left is doomed if it accepts to never use violence. This was the final lesson of both the Paris Commune in the 1850s and the Democratically elected Socialist Allende in Chile in the 1970s.
being judgmental towards the only person in the comments being even vaguely critical of murder because you can’t read
Nice try moron, work on that reading comprehension.
It should go without saying that such violence is not good and not supportable.
I am not celebrating. It's a tragedy, even if a predictable one. We'll all do better with a little more cooperation and a lot less greed.
I don't like it when people die, or get maimed.
If I say that I can understand how something like this happens, it's not out of sympathy for the murderer. It's just an accounting of facts amidst the fact that billions of people exist so obviously someone is going to be willing to kill for their perceived injustices. Especially when injustices are a lot more concrete than abstract.
It’s a tragedy,
Technically, and in reality, it's not a tragedy. Technically, dying from a pre-existing condition as a health insurance exec is a comedy. In reality, it's a net positive for society.
Life is a comedy to those who think, and a tragedy to those who feel.
I'm thinking a lot about this one.
I'd agree. He likely got great comedic value from the people dying as a result of his decisions; and thinks those people being healthy is a tragedy.
Buddy if you think it's just the left operating this way I have some beach front property in Arizona for a good price.
The ruling class isn't a "civilian", because they literally command armed forces.
While not always called "armies", their function is the same: Secure the interest of the capitalist class.
Just like I wouldn't call the POTUS a "civilian", as the POTUS commands an armed force.