CEOs have not been held accountable for their actions by the legal system. This is inevitable with the way the United States is set up

Thompson, who was named CEO in April 2021, was pronounced dead at Mount Sinai West.

Good thing he had health insurance for his stay at Mount Sinai; some aren't so lucky thanks to worthless puddles of filth like this.

Edit: Zero sympathy. Negative sympathy, even.

Are they sure it wasn't a pre-existing condition?

UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot outside NYC hotel in 'premeditated, preplanned targeted attack'

premeditated

preplanned

Ah, so a preexisting condition. So sorry, law enforcement can't do anything about it.

Insurance companies regularly commit acts of violence on the poor and sick for the benefit of their bottom line. People literally die because of the decisions this CEO made, so when the shoe is on the other foot, don't come crying because we know you're not an innocent actor, insurance company.

It should go without saying that such violence is not good and not supportable.

That said, I also think those who make monopolistic fortunes off the sick while also dictating refusal of care to the sick are categorically not civilians. It is what it is.

Let’s be honest here. This is probably the only way a ceo would ever be punished for crimes against the poor in America. Unfortunately this will probably lead to the increased militarisation of ceo security teams (and the police) rather than a recognition of why someone would want to dome a ceo in the first place.

It's nice that whomever did this didn't take their grudge out on a bunch of powerless workers. So often you see someone with a grudge against... whatever end up shooting a bunch of minimum wage employees who had no hand in their misfortune.

I feel sorry for the people who suffered and died due to the awful health insurance industry.

JD Vance said about school shootings being a ‘fact of life’ Maybe ceo shootings should be equally the same?

I am honestly surprised people fucked over by health insurance haven't tried to take things into their own hands before, if that's what this is. And if that's not what this is, it surprises me that it hasn't happened yet.

Plenty of people (me included) have been severely fucked over by insurance companies. I'm not willing to kill anyone, but there are a lot of people out there who are. Especially if they know they're dying and have nothing to lose.

When people are pushed to the point they have nothing left to lose this kinda thing will happen. I'm sort of surprised this kinda of things doesn't happen more often to people who make their fortunes off the suffering of others.

I am honestly shocked that something like this hadn't happened much sooner

"The motive for this murder is currently unknown but based on the evidence we have so far, it does appear the victim was specifically targeted," he told reporters. "But at this point, we do not know why."

We don't?

A few years ago on a cruise we sat at a table with a doctor who said he was in charge of all United Healthcare insurance approvals. This guy didn't just mention he had to sometimes refuse people care, he was absolutely giddy about it and took sadistic pleasure in seeing other people suffer. We moved to a different table to get away from him.

I guess we'll find out eventually, but I've got to wonder if the shooter was pushed over the edge after someone close to him died due to refusal of care by United Healthcare.

I'm sorry, bullets aren't covered by my healthcare executive sympathy plan.

CEOs of exploitative corporations should take notice.

Serious mod abuse in this thread. Removing a lot of posts that don't actually break any rules.

Like I get that you have to ensure that people follow the rules, but you're waaaaaay overstepping that line.

Edit: seems to have calmed down a few hours after I posted this, now comments aren't getting removed unless they actually break the rules, as far as I can tell.

I'm not gonna celebrate or call for violence, but I am going to say I'm definitely not as bothered by this as I am with the constant cop killings and school shootings.

Late stage capitalism is getting to the terminal stage, I think. Well, it did for this CEO, at the least.

Getting to the find out stage.

Having just had someone I care about go through the American health care system, I get it.

My person went through months of agony and will never be completely the same, for absolutely no reason other than the system trying to squeeze a little more money out.

I would never do this kind of thing. I don't think it's the way. But I get it. More than once I fantasized about burning down the head offices of the insurance company. I just don't think you can kill and hurt vulnerable people at massive scale for profit with your smug little grin, and expect people to ignore it forever, only because there's a set of traditions right now that makes it all legal.

Turns out it wasn’t the gunshots that killed him. Insurance declined because he wasn’t covered for that caliber and he wound up dying of infection.

/s

"Profits before People"-style mass murder gunned down. Thoughts and prayers. Bury the company with him.

I have never had worse "insurance" than when I had United "Healthcare". They have you a big book full of all their "providers", but when you called to make an appointment, you were told they'd left United quite a while back and shouldn't be in the book. A few providers were still in network, but they weren't accepting new patients. Their "provider support" line was completely useless, because they would only read you out the "options" available in the book, the one with all the ghost providers.

My SIL in southern New Jersey ended up with them for some reason. She needed to see an OB/Gyn due to some abnormal bleeding that had been going on for too long. She went through their provider carousel and finally found one provider who was still in network and also still accepting new patients. That provider was 2.5 hours away from her, in the very other end of New Jersey.

I eventually did find one local provider who was in network, except they never did any comprehensive medical visits; you had to visit them for one issue at a time, at least a week apart. They'd give you a prescription or a referral but (once again) you were entirely on your own finding someone to accept the referral. Like there were times I'd make a dozen phone calls a day for weeks, trying to find someone who could see me - it was very much an entire part-time job trying to see someone!

I ended up switching insurance and have ended up 'captured' within a regional hospital's provider network. The hospital bought up a bunch of local independent providers in all the different specialities. I'm really unhappy with the continued corporatization of healthcare and the conglomeration of hospital networks - but the ability to call one number, be given a specialist within reasonable driving distance and (in that same phone call) be given an appointment within a reasonable timeframe is just so refreshing!

Deeply ironic that when this news broke I was in an urgent care out of network because I couldn't get an appointment anywhere with my employer provided United Healthcare.

Oh well, anyway.

The motive for this murder is currently unknown, but based on the evidence we have so far, it does appear the victim was specifically targeted," he told reporters. "But at this point, we do not know why." (...) "There had been some threats," [Paulete Thompson, Brian's wife] told NBC News. "Basically, I don’t know, a lack of coverage? I don’t know details. I just know that he said there were some people that had been threatening him."

Try "he was an absolute asshole and the group was making people's lives hell in order to profit" for a reason.

UnitedHealth Group, the parent company, was holding its annual investor conference Wednesday morning in New York City but abruptly ended it due to a "very serious medical situation" with a team member.

The corporation using this fucking bullshit corpospeech for "our CEO was shot" makes me irrationally angry.

Heroic gunman stops mass murderer from continuing his work.

Good.

Edit: To the Downvoters, Lick boots.

Americans pay more for healthcare than any other country in the world. And that healthcare might be good, if you make it through all the barriers first. And you could be dead before that happens. If you even have healthcare after the incoming administration does what they plan on doing.

People are getting fed up and there are only going to be more desperate Americans going forward. Things are not going to get better. Expect more headlines like this in the future.

Awh noo.. The shooter got away :(

The shooter fled the scene on foot and then on a New York Citi Bike, Tisch said. He was last seen in Central Park. As of Wednesday morning, no arrests had been made, police said. Crime Stoppers was offering a $10,000 reward for information.

What a terrible tragedy, these are incredibly dark times. How will we as a nation, nay, a species, recover? This is a really really bad thing, and I do not like it. What has this poor, poor CEO done to deserve this? God, it should've been me! It should've been me!

Be careful talking about legal things that can happen as MODS WILL ERASE YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT IT, and state it is against TOS even though it is not a call for violence, not an attack on users or groups, discrimination against anyone, isn't doxing, has nothing to do with privacy, is not a system disruption, is not illegal content, is not violent content, is not misinformation, nor is it doing harm. JURY NULLIFICATION IS NOT AGAINST TOS nor IS saying TEMPORARY INSANITY PLEA against TOS. IF MODS DO DELETE this please tell me which part of TOS any of this goes against? Edit: jury nullification is : "refusal of a jury to find a defendant guilty even with established guilt, because a conclusion that conviction would be contrary to some other concept of justice." Temporary insanity plea means: the defendant was mentally unstable when the crime took place. None of these endorse violence or are saying what the person did is correct. It is just saying that in this instance the defendant shouldn't be punished for their actions.

Unfortunately, rather than distribute his pay and bonuses and benefits in order to provide a living wage for hospital staff, the rest of the upper management will have a benefits-cutting contest to decide which one of their own to elevate.

I'm relatively sure that the shooter will turn out to be someone who had a loved one suffer and die because they were refused health care coverage. This may turn out to be only the first of similar incidents.

Oops, sorry but I don’t feel sorry. Using a flawed ai to deny life saving care for people that paid for said insurance, maybe some board of directors should be held responsible as well….

Healthcare is a human right. Socialized medicine is cheaper than our current system, gives more people access, and prevents incidents like this.

Heres the tip line. Please make sure no one sends in misleading information

Sure, we've had one CEO assassination, but what about second...

Is there somewhere people can donate to the family of the assassin? Is there a betting pool on who's next?

Maybe one day it becomes too risky to be the figurehead of a company whos business is to deny and healthcare and exploit people for profits.

Wonder if he was doing something genuinely good with his day or if he was on his way to a presentation with investors where they can gameplan new ways to capitalize on human suffering.

Shame, we'll never know.

Mods just deleted another of my comments for saying

"For America to get better, we need to be okay with bad things happening to bad people"

I am not entirely sure how this statement is calling for violence. Or Glorifying it. Or is even controversial.

The Mods here suck.

A loss I will not mourn. I also extend no sympathy to his family. This man engaged in some of the most evil activity humanity has ever perpetrated—profiting on human suffering.

"A person familiar with the matter told CNBC that the suspect was wearing a black hoodie and black pants and was carrying a gray backpack. It’s believed the suspect used a firearm with a silencer." So this was a hit? I'll grant that a lot of people might have wanted to take this guy out, but the real question is who was so motivated as to make it happen?

First reported in NY Post: https://nypost.com/2024/12/04/us-news/ceo-of-unitedhealthcare-fatally-shot-outside-of-hilton-hotel-in-nyc-in-possible-targeted-attack-sources/

i mean of course people will eventually get so mad at ceo types to do things like this.

killing them individually like this won't fundamentally change things though, even if we get a little schadenfraude.

in addition to this, organize and collectivize that anger and we got ourselves real change.

This bit of news does not bother me at all. I wonder if this will become a trend now

lol. lmao, even.

...and absolutely nothing of value was lost.

• Thoughts and prayers
• that's rough buddy
• What a shame, he was a good man... What a rotten way to die

Wow, I came to Lemmy because the reddit mods were little bitches. Where to next?

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I mean, I thought we were gonna eat the rich, but this will do.

The CNN video thumbnail goes hard so I decided to make a low effort fake album cover.

lmfao i love karma

I've been wondering if we would see a targeting of high-profile people as a statement to our corporate overlord that we aren't helpless.

Maybe this is that

Let the rich dream of guillotines

A food cart vendor near the scene told NBC News that he did not hear any gunshots but saw police vehicles and two helicopters in the area.

Why is news media so stupid?

Probably safer for bystanders than dynamite.

How long till Blackwater is authorized to operate on US soil?

Looks like we're speed running Cyberpunk!

5 million ways to kill a CEO

I hope one of two things happen to the shooter; either they go with temporary insanity, or the jury goes with jury nullification and finds them not guilty regardless of evidence found.

Finally, now I know who is asking the tech companies for AI.

Time to block this fucking instance and it's shit fucking class traitor mods

Some straight bullshit mods here.... Deleting comments supporting the assassinations of billionaires... Wtf

Huh.

Finally some good news

Game over. What was his score?

There's an awful lot of celebratory assumptions going on here, I'd caution everybody that we still don't know the reason this guy was killed.

Everyone WANTS it to be "scumbag insurance exec. killed for scumbag insurance reasons", but we just don't know at this point.

Jilted lover? Could be. Caught cheating? Sure, why not? Insurance killing? Weirder things have happened. Friend or relative just sick of his shit? I mean, I dunno the guy, but anything is possible. Completely random killing? In MY New York City? It's more likely than you think!

In short, before you all start going "Wooo! Good start!" maybe take a breath and wait until we know more about what happened.

Leaked audio from what witnesses heard after the shooting. (SFW, but volume warning)

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Oh, rofl, I did not read the word

fatally

right the first time.

🥰

A fine start, looking forward to more.

I'm glad the fucker is dead and I hope his successor meets the same fate!

I'm glad he's dead. Death to all billionaires!

Awe shucks.

Deny his life insurance request.

The website has been update boss!

Notice the part where no CEO is listed. Anyhoo guys, remember when my dad had the surgery and you guys denied a few more days in intensive care so he caught mersa at the other more affordable facility and then passed aw....you forced us to pull the plug or have a reverse mortgage so my mom would lose the house? Remember that? No actually I get it...you can't remember after you are not alive anymore. How soon we forget the important things.

Isn't this basically the plot of one of the Saw movies? Maybe minus some steps.

A lot of comments in this thread are being deleted for "celebrating violence" and the mods are posting that it is against TOS. It really looks like the mods are hiding behind the TOS for some internal decisions they are making.

I am looking over the TOS, and I don't actually see anything in it about celebrating violence.

https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/#content-policy-rules-for-users

I commented to the mod about this and the post disappeared. Help me out lemmy people. Is there something in here that I am missing, or are the mods just deleting shit because the feels?

I wonder if it's possible to form a fight club, but with class as a basis

Locking. About 50 reports. I'm a volunteer, and don't have enough time for this.

🤣

Bruh...

This timeline just gets stranger and stranger...

I don't think anybody deserves such a fate, but it does seem he was asking for it at least a little.

"what's Pandora's box?"

"Oh."

Unfortunately, rather than distribute his pay and bonuses and benefits in order to provide a living wage for hospital staff, the rest of the upper management will have a benefits-cutting contest to decide which one of their own to elevate.

it's there a crowdfunding sure I can donate to four more of this, please? It's time to eat the rich.

Very relevant and relevant Dr Glaucomflecken.

Is the shooter a tech bro or photographer? He’s wearing a peak design everyday backpack: https://www.peakdesign.com/products/everyday-backpack?Size=20L&Color=Ash

death squads are not things to cheer on in my book.

I feel like a lot of comments here equate a CEO with the owners.
CEOs chose to be the guard dogs & executioners doing bad shit.

While I'm not saying that would even change any of the comments, I do wanna add the context that basically anyone can be CEO, it's really one of the more replaceable jobs. The elite hire guys like this to to be the face for figurative and literal bullets, and compensate them well for that.

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You're all ghouls. Each and every one of you who revels in this. Ironically, that's exactly what you claim his crime was.

I'm ashamed and embarrassed to be associated with you miserable wretches who would glorify murder to sate your revenge fantasies. You have no shame.

None of you know anything about this man aside from his occupation. You're all hateful, ignorant, self-righteous assholes.

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