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I want to believe but I don’t see confirmation anywhere and pamphlets is a patsoc rag.
Patsoc... divvint remembered that from him?
Same. Granted, I haven't seen one of his agitprop videos in over a year.
Do you guys even bother to distinguish between the guys talking about how MLK Jr. talked about American ideals and the guys who say baristas are the labor aristocracy lol? Because I see a lot of people using patsoc and maga communist interchangeably.
Is Jill Stein a maga communist because she talked about how he was initially treated as a threat to the dem/GOP duopoly? Some of these people are just trying to work with the American that exists today rather than fantasizing about literally destroying it physically
Because I see a lot of people using patsoc and maga communist interchangeably
Why should anyone care about distinguishing patsocs and MAGA "communists"? At the end of day they're all right-deviationist reactionaries.
the people you call patsocs are far less intense than even the UAW or Teamsters who get mileage here. you seem to have an odd fusion of MLM third worldist and anarchist memes combined with genzedong posting on this site, no offense. I'm just perplexed how this even happened.
there is a huge difference between people who pretend america is actually communist, the US is being exploited by the british and the israelis, and people who consider those people worth propagandizing, just like everyone else, and understand most americans do not benefit from supporting imperialism
you're comparing laroucheites and people who talk about neocolonialism in a structural sense so i'm going to assume your engagement with their material is surface-level
Anyone with patriotic feelings toward the USA, anyone with positive feelings toward MAGA, is not a comrade. Imagine complaining about Israel (a settler-colonial project) while making excuses for the USA (also a settler-colonial project). Take this shit back to haz or edbie’s twitter page.
if you think patsocs are not interested in decolonization again you're just glazing over what differentiates them from "maga communists" who don't give a fuck about reservations or minorities
i talk to them for the same reason they talk to maga communists, i know when people's work on their ideas is incomplete, based on the shortcomings of their strategies and their incoherent statements. if it doesn't work, it doesn't. just closing off a conversation with weird online lingo is not impressive to me. you're already ready to dismiss me.
the impression you are working on a mass movement, secretly, deep down, has to be laughable even to you. so don't tell me how to do it or think you've imparted the impression on me you're even interested.
i'm a lot more involved with what most claim to think is the best option in the US anyways, that's why i'm critical of it. which is strange considering I see UAW and Teamsters stuff get uncritical huggies and kissies on this site
Unions, even american unions, get at least critical support on this site, even if they often have terrible views on decolonization and the global south, because they are at least trying to improve conditions for some workers. Patsocs and maga communists (the same thing) work only for feds and landlords.
okay well then critique their ideas lol, do you not even care about dunking on people?
go ahead and imply you know them top to bottom and didn't just form an impression based on online gossip. meaningless to me
if you're using the words patsoc or magacom to describe yourself, your just a fascist. just call yourself demsoc, or socdem if you still want to work within the system.
