Trump-loving gays say their MAGA support is ruining their lives
Trump-loving gays say their MAGA support is ruining their lives
“I was at the beach the other day and I was booed off the beach, a guy started kicking sand on me.”
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I can understand people disagreeing with them, but kicking sand and attacking people is literally the actions of fascist too. You don't win people over by attacking them.
You don't prevent your bar from becoming a nazi bar by asking nicely though.
So what's the plan then? You going to punch the other side in the face to win their votes and show them how anti-fascist you are?
Maybe if fascists got their faces punched in more often they'd understand that getting punched in the face sucks and that maybe they shouldn't advocate for punching people in the face in the first place.
Was Biden voting against same-sex marriages and gay people serving in the military a fascist once? Will Democrats call Biden a recovered fascist?
You once were a child, making poor decisions. Are you still that way? (waves at the rest of the crowd to hold their comments) No? Would you look at that then, it's like people are capable of growing and learning.
So, you fuck that bullshit narrative here and now, past and future actions don't mean shit. People change for better or worse, and you don't sit on your ass and point fingers because past or promises, but by current actions, things occurring here and now.
And right the fuck now there's only one realistic option for the LGBT+ community in the states, so I don't particularly give a damn what the fuck happened decades ago. If you're still stuck in the past, might want to reflect on that. The rest of us have bigger shit to worry about.
it’s like people are capable of growing and learning.
except biden didn't learn or grow; he has a long history of going with the status quo and the status quo currently says that gays are okay and if gays were not okay tomorrow with the status quo; biden would tow that line as well.
and i wish i had your privilege of ignoring the recent past; we've learned from it because it was so painful and we're still trying to recover.
If you're worried about LGBTQ+ community then you'd be advocating for Biden to step down.
hi, am part of said community. i'll gladly punch a fascist in the face for being fascist. it's like a cancer, essentially; you give it any room to breathe & it will take over the whole thing. just look at what happened to the skinhead movement. but, yeah, they want us dead or in camps anyway & civil discussion obviously doesn't work when fascist philosophy only works if everyone involved is actively playing dumb & as such, not playing by the same rules as everyone else.
Hi... I guess I'll see you on the news in November probably setting fires to government buildings or storming the capitol building to show the world how anti-fascist you are. I'm leaning staying home on election night. If you think I'm a fascist and want to prove you'll do what you claim, let me know.
yeah & i'll see you banned eventually, just like all the other prominent bad faith actors here. you're not half as special or clever as you think you are.
e : i love you had to slip in some BLM misinfo there. i'm not even from the US lol
Is that your reaction to deal with people not in the cult, to ban them... silence them even? Good thing you're not from Palestine, or you'd be wondering why Biden is helping kill children.
You make it clear they're not welcome in the community, by force if necessary, and you let them back in once they've shown they can be trusted to be a member of the community again. IF they show they've changed.
I've been on a committee of people making this decision more than once. Rarely do people change enough to be welcomed back. Community self policing is the only way to really protect yourself when the government shows they wont.
Where do they go? Do you propose that America has red states where only conservatives should live & blue states where liberals can live? Do you want to put over half of voters in concentration camps?
Oh no, the slipperiest of slopes attached to nothing but pure conjecture! I will never be hungry again with all of the words you just put into my mouth!
I asked with question marks. Do you know what a question mark is?
Their point was that kicking someone out of a small club isn't the same as kicking them out of the state.
Your exaggeration of their point is what made it bad, not the point itself. That's what the slippery slope fallacy is.
They saw no point in debating your exaggerated question because it was so different to their position.
They showed that they understood your debating technique better than you showed.
No, they showed that they wanted to engage in fascist behavior against a majority of voters right (according to polls).
If you put a paedophile in charge of the country, none of our children are safe.
I had planned on voting for Biden, but seeing how much Democrats are lying and gaslighting I'm actually thinking about staying home at this point. But you must know, even Biden has a history of questionable behavior with kids, sniffing them, touching them inappropriately, and it appears (according to Snopes) that Ashley Biden wrote about him showering with her and confirmed the diary to be hers in court.
Furthermore, Trump has not been found guilty of being a pedophile. Democrats had 4 years to bring up charges on Trump being a pedo. They did not do it. Biden doesn't call Trump a pedo. It is the Democrat voters grasping at straws who are in a cult making accusations rather than presenting policy because they lack intelligence. There is also this:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/07/donald-trump-sexual-assault-lawsuits-norm-lubow
Even more proof that the Katie Johnson story stinks and the media doesn't report on it, cause they already investigated it and determined it lacked credibility:
There are others too:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-rape-case_n_581a31a5e4b0c43e6c1d9834?h2bhwth1ccjgzxgvi=
Trump may be a pedophile, but to prove that you need a trial and evidence.
No just the 30% who are or support fascism. Learn some history, you'll learn how this ends.
So 30% support fascism according to you, but come elections over 40% are expected to vote for Trump. Who are the other 10%? Are the people voting for RFK Jr. fascist? Would that mean over 50% of Americans are fascist? Do you expect 39% to win in a war against over 50%?
If you support a fascist, you are a fascist. It doesn't matter if you're brainwashed, a true believer, or just stupid, it doesn't make you any less dangerous to me or my country.
You do what the fascists ALWAYS force you to do. What. They. Always. Force. You. To. Do.
What I expect is for history to repeat itself.
Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.
Those who do learn history are doomed to watch those who don't learn it, repeat it.
Those who try to keep you from learning history are going to repeat it.
According to these facts you present, what you're suggesting here is is that the following time periods in American history we were ruled by fascists and everyone that voted for those Presidents were fascists?
2017-2021 2001-2009 1989-1993 1981-1989 1974-1977 1969-1974
Lololol. You either are intentionally missing the point and arguing in bad faith or you're an idiot. We're done here. I'll find another 14yld who's got his shit together to argue with.
Nope you're just dumb. Have a good rest of the day. Goodbye.
History has proven there is only one way to stop fascists, and it isn't through tolerance, it's through overwhelming violence.
These aren't the kind of people you 'win over', these are the people you stop.
Tolerance is for children who annoy you in a plane, not fascists.
Reminds me of a piece that is gone -- but the below rephrase comes from here: https://mstdn.social/@ZhiZhu/109502665651546617
"The Paradox of Tolerance disappears if you look at tolerance, not as a moral standard, but as a social contract.
If someone does not abide by the contract, then they are not covered by it.
In other words: The intolerant are not following the rules of the social contract of mutual tolerance.
Since they have broken the terms of the contract, they are no longer covered by the contract, and their intolerance should NOT be tolerated."
I like that. That's a helpfully consistent way of framing it.
That was beautiful. I'm saving this.
So do you have a link or somewhere I can learn more about your domestic terrorist organization?
Absolutely, http://localhost
So you keep this information stored on your local computer? Isn't it dangerous?
Go jerk off someone else dude.
Who am I jerking off here?
The rest of the conversation is missing, but you seem to be looking for volunteers to be jerked off by you?
No the person that removed their comments advocating for violent activities said I should find someone else to jerk off.
That sounds like the right answer, but really, I'd be right there kicking sand.
You don't, but at this point if they haven't chosen the correct side it's kind of on them.
So you attack them & tell them it is their fault that you're attacking them? Kind of like how an abuser would blame the abused?
Your analogy assumes innocence. In fact, it's so strained that I have to believe you're operating in bad faith here, or made a lapse in judgement.
It assumes that you're the instigator of physical violence.