Why the [removed] do swears show up as [removed]?
Why the [removed] do swears show up as [removed]?
I'm not hating on this by the way, in fact I think it's kinda funny!
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Lemmy has hard coded censorship. It can be disabled via the code, but irrc not via config. It was a large source of criticism, even 3 years ago: https://linuxreviews.org/Lemmy
It is a server config option. Lemmy.ml uses a banned word list, while other instances don't. The words are still there and visible from instances that don't censor.
Fuck
Poo
Mao Zedong was a bìtch
This doesn't seem to quite be true, based on my testing in the comment here.
It seems that if your comment is made on a censored instance, the word is completely replaced, and isn't visible to non-censored instances.
If this isn't accurate and you know more about how the code actually works, I'd love to know what the details are.
I can say for sure that I saw OP's post uncensored which made me come into the comments to find out what's going on. So at some point this was passed along uncensored.
Are there any instances that you know of that disable the censorship? I already got my fill of cybernannies on Reddit.
Edit: My alt on sh.itjust.works can see the censored words, and it defederates with much fewer instances than lemmy.ml. Seems like migrating over there is the best choice.
Edit 2: I think I've finally figured it out based on what my sh.itjust.works account shows:
- If you're on a censored instance, all words will be blocked no matter what
- If you're on a non-censored instance looking at a comment from a censored instance, that comment will still show up as removed
- If you're on a non-censored instance looking at a comment from a non-censored instance, the comment won't be censored
When I'm on my sh.itjust.works profile, the comment by @Lazerbeams2@ttrpg.network isn't censored, but mine still is. So, the censorship gets you both coming and going - no censored words can make it into a censored instance, and no censored words can make it out either.
I've just edited all of my scripts to point to my sh.itjust.works profile instead of lemmy.ml. Wish there was a way to migrate comments and posts over, but no biggie.
Has anyone made a multi-Lemmy yet? Where all of your posts and comments from all of your profiles can show up in one place?
(also, what's the formatting for double-spacing after a list?)
Are there any instances that you know of that disable the censorship?
Considering that the list of words contains ones that a NSFW/porn instance would probably want allowed, my guess is one of those.
It's not Lemmy, but you could join us over on kbin!
I tried a few days ago, but every kbin instance I went to requires an email to sign up. Maybe I'll try again with a throwaway email.
anonaddy.com or simplelogin.io
EDIT: These are email aliasing services. You create an alias and emails get redirected to your inbox. Your original email is still protected.
Lemmy has hard coded censorship
I've noticed that a few of my comments wouldn't actually post. The word for when you commit Sudoku (suicide) seems to be on the no-no list. I also wanted to comment about a weapon known by a two letter designation (AK) and that wasn't allowed either.
Edit: seems like it might be some instances only.
I need to test this
Fuck, shit, ass, bitch. Let's see which words get removed if any
Shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker, tits, fart, turd, and twat
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In case you want to know, your 5th word is "removed" when viewed from lemmy.ml
Cheers
And only the fifth word?
I find that hilarious for some reason.
Yup, only the fifth word.
That is very helpful, thank you.
What was the fifth word? The B-word?
[Word for male chicken that can also be used for male genitalia]-sucker
There should also be a link that points to a song where all these words are sung as lyrics to said song. Is that link also removed?
No, the link works fine.
Only that one: That's almost homophobic...
I see the list has been expanded since the original edition.
Looks good to me, from Lemmy.zip
None removed, your instance doesn't block naughty word. (At least not these)
Pretty sure that's not it. People are saying removed as a joke. It's a filter for slurs, not swears.
Permanently Deleted
Looks like I can say bitch just fine. Is it my instance? Or maybe because I'm on Liftoff and not Jerboa?
It may be your instance - your comment shows as "Looks like I can say removed just fine" to me. I may be switching to lemmy.ee it seems.
Edit: turns out my alt on sh.itjust.works can see them fine, so I'm migrating my account over there.
Do me a favor and reply with the B-word. Maybe I can see it because it's my own post.
Bitch
I really do think it's your instance, but here we go: removed
Yep, your comment shows up as removed for me. Thanks.
I think I've finally figured it out based on what my sh.itjust.works account shows:
- If you're on a censored instance, all words will be blocked no matter what
- If you're on a non-censored instance looking at a comment from a censored instance, that comment will still show up as removed
- If you're on a non-censored instance looking at a comment from a non-censored instance, the comment won't be censored
When I'm on my sh.itjust.works profile, the comment by @Lazerbeams2@ttrpg.network isn't censored, but mine still is. So, the censorship gets you both coming and going - no censored words can make it into a censored instance, and no censored words can make it out either.
Thanks for solving the mystery! I find it odd how an instance like lemmy.ml would randomly censor certain swears, but beehaw.org doesn't seem to? Maybe I'm misreading some people's comments in here.
I'm on lemmy.world and things don't seem to be censored on this instance either if anyone is curious. I can say "bitch" all I want.
Lemmy is growing more irritating with shit like this.
I'm pretty sure they removed the hardcoded filter as a result of the original discussion.