OUR oppression of the proletariat, comrade!
OUR oppression of the proletariat, comrade!
OUR oppression of the proletariat, comrade!
Also it’s completely fine. Because someone at some point of time has done something similar. Which gives the CCP the right to do it to other innocent people. I am very intelligent 😎
Ahh this is just so perfect. You summed up tankies perfectly. "Umm, but the usa"
But you don't need a union in China, because the party is the union! What's that? The owner of the company is high up in the communist party? Even better! Your employer definitely won't exploit you then! Good thing we're not in the US, where having a fake labor union that's run by the CEO's brother is illegal!
The semantic arguments of what people named their death machine always makes me wonder if the people making the argument understand how deception works.
"But they call themselves socialists!"
"I can declare myself God if I was so inclined; that doesn't make it true."
All Authoritarians Are Bastards
AAAB don't have the same ring to it
maybe All Authoritarians Are Assholes
They don't want to live in your oppresive regime. They want to live in my oppressive regime.
Bonus: words like Freedom, Liberty, Patriot and Heritage work like that too!
Coca-Cola likes this game, but they only do it because they also have a red flag.
From what I can tell china is "communist" on the basis of majority "public" (state) ownership of the means of production (they tried full public (state) ownership under mao, and concluded that in china's case it would just limit socialism to "poverty socialism", where you may have the moral high ground in principle but in reality the people are starving, or so the narrative goes), and the liberation of productive forces of a large amount of people, from low income jobs to higher income jobs, sometimes using tools like automation and using aforementioned ownership of the means of production to make it be. democratic participation seems to exist too, just not in a western liberal democratic way where parties fight against each other, but rather where internal factions inside the communist party and a few associated parties fight each other, and where change must come from within. china has genuinely, using its own methods, lifted hundreds of millions of people out of dead end poverty, while also defending against hostilities from the west. it's impressive what happened, even if china has also simultaneously committed atrocities, violates human rights with for example their handling of the uyghur muslims, and still has millions of people struggling, for example migrant workers in factories who have basically no future, or the ubiquitous delivery driver who gets paid fuck all. all in all it's a very mixed bag, but it's not all bad.
of course better systems are possible, but they basically built this system "in a cave with a box of scraps" to quote the iron man movie.
democratic participation seems to exist too, just not in a western liberal democratic way where parties fight against each other, but rather where internal factions inside the communist party and a few associated parties fight each other, and where change must come from within.
You might as well say democratic participation existed in the Soviet Union.
china has genuinely, using its own methods, lifted hundreds of millions of people out of dead end poverty,
Yes, by [checks notes] adopting a capitalist economic regime in the 90s and creating massive and rapidly rising inequality.
Truly a stunning repudiation of capitalism.
I'll worry about dumb ass tankies when they present even a 10% credible threat, till then who cares. Nazis in the bedroom and worried about commies at the door???
Considering that tankies playing apologist for Russian imperialism have had a significant effect on European politics in the past three years, and that China is a major power currently committing genocide, I don't know that "Wait until you're in line for the gulag to criticize authoritarians" is all that brilliant an option.
I love that all the responses completely ignore the issue of genocide in China and Ukraine no matter how many times I bring it up, because it's inconvenient to admit that they only acknowledge that condemning some genocides is moral. But anything to bootlick for fascists, I guess.
I get that being anti tankie is your thing, but maybe worry about the wolves that are already ripping you apart instead of the bear that might. China isn't really something you can do anything about, talking online isn't gonna do much when they don't even share our Internet space, and there are literal nazis in charge of the white house but sure let's waste energy on Russian apologists.
Nvmind after checking your profile you'll not be deported you are fine, you can just look other people being deported for speaking against Palestinian genocide or stuff like that 👍
Given that US imperialism and propaganda machine had a infinite more significant influence on Europe politics than ever had Russian and China, I sure do hope you'll be happy when waiting in line for being deported to El Salvador.
Goes on anti-tankie meme community
Posts comment complaining about the post being about tankies on an anti-tankie comm
Accuses others of throwing tantrums when they bothered to comment instead of just moving on from the post
Totally just the OP throwing a tantrum at your comments tho lol. People can actually bother to talk about multiple problems on the internet y'know? And I'd argue meme comms exist for Lemmy and not the outside, and tankies are much, much more common than Nazis on Lemmy.
When you feel the need to accept everyone's voice/Chase everyone's approval, you get Nazis, do you want Nazis?
There's middle ground, murder isn't it, but neither is Godwin
what
Where are you getting any of that from the meme? Quite honestly you can be against both. Should be against all authoritarians regardless of where they pretend to be economically. Because they will always do what's more expedient for them to preserve power. Regardless of left or right.
Unions are Nazis, got it
How willing to accept state violence are you? You know there's another way, right?
Also how dare you use the paradox of tolerance to defend China, what the fuck
You. I would like to punch you. You know what you're doing.