You getting downvoted for refusing to vote for Biden for a very valid reason is proof of how broken our two-party system is. This is why every state needs to pass ranked-choice voting. Maine did it and proved it could be done, and now they get to vote for who they actually /want/ without having their vote “spoiled”.
Everyone in the US should be working to get ranked-choice voting in their state.
This exact attitude is how we got where we are. Don't vote for policies you don't believe in. There are other candidates, win or lose, vote for one that represents you.
This isn't how we got here. The people that don't vote tend to be left leaning. Republicans do vote, in mass. I fail to see how thinking not voting/voting third party is how we got here.
I really hope your 2016 vote went to an independent, then. I'm having a hard time seeing how Trump would ever do either of those things. Granted, he might thumbs-up an ethnic cleansing if it meant remaining in power.
"Things aren't going how I like when I vote, so now i will encourage everyone to not vote to improve the chances that things will change the way I want them to"
People are always ready with some morality test but the cold hard truth is trying to enforce your absolutes on others is not going to work out. It just backs you into a corner supporting a turd sandwich. Compromises suck though. Can't have that. You do you.
What good dude? We murder civilians in multiple countries every year regardless of who’s in power. Trump and Obama both indiscriminately murdered civilians with drone strikes, Biden expanded police funding more than any president before him. Hilary Clinton bragged and laughed about overthrowing a democratically elected government. Nearly all Dems and republicans voted in favor of expanding the military budget by billions of dollars even though we just ended a fucking war. We’re definitively the most evil country that has existed on this planet since at least the Dawn of the modern nation-state, and more blood is on the hands of Americans than any other nation on earth.
Several presidents have put tax dollars to work on medical research.
For example the The U.S. President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR) paved the way for money for the PreP trials in 2005.
Obama kicked off precision medicine and gene research.
Obama's HITECH Act reformed HIPAA in a way that improved outcomes for patients and the industry.
But yea, everything is black and white. Conflicts in Africa and the middle east are the only concern I could ever have.
I especially do not care at all about any medical advancements or harm reductions.
Everyone must survive and no one can ever be harmed or everything is lost.
You know you sound just like the every sperm is sacred anti abortion activists.
War = so bad we must sabotage anyone involved in war and trade all our liberties, freedoms, health, etc just to not have war!
It’s more that you talk like nobody else is against genocide. Nobody here wants genocide. Your “solution” is just a nothing burger. The reality is every government is pretty fucked up, some more than others. There’s no way to change the whole world order, so you try make it as less shit for as many people as possible, not just throw your hands up and say “I’m done with voting”.
Whilst it's a topic that can get very personal (which is why invariably political discussions ultimately get heated very quickly, as this thread has shown), I think the point here essentially boils down to pointing out what not voting means.
In a system where you have one side doing their best to amplify the weight votes for them have (whether that be through gerrymandering, the electoral college, etc), not voting just increases that amplification. So whilst on paper not voting demonstrates your lack of confidence in either side (and let's be honest, without some real changes it's a two horse race), in reality that decision is primarily (not exclusively, but primarily) benefiting one side of politics.
If you're making the decision to not vote with full knowledge of what that means, realistically I think that's all someone can ask without getting into a discussion about trying to change your mind about that decision.
Spoiler alert: This would have most likely happened regardless of the D or R next to the president’s name on the ballot.
There’s two reasons I could see the US supporting Israel regardless of who’s in charge: the logical one because it has historical precedent is that the US wants Israel as a buffer for Russia due to it’s strategic location in the Middle-East, and the other reason is more conspiracy theory but I wouldn’t be surprised if the US can somehow get access to Palestine’s oil if Israel beats the shit out of the Hamas.
Or third, Israel has invested a lot in American politics after Eisenhower used American economic power against Israeli allies in the Suez Crisis, seeing that it needed to be on good terms with at least one super power and the USA seemed like the more natural fit. This includes going as far as supporting any primary challenger that pledges Israeli support.
It was either that or go the way of its apartheid nuclear buddy, South Africa.
You actually don't vote for the president. Our vote is merely a suggestion. So vote freely and with confidence. Which criminal is your preferred president?
The man who refuses to vote for the one aggressively funding genocide or the one who martyrs the world on the guy who is aggressively funding genocide because he is "the lesser evil."
Not necessarily, you don't have to consider them culpable so much as aware, and stuck between a hard place and some very sharp rocks. But I think it would very naturally rest on anyone's conscience if they're considering living in the land of Canaan so to speak
Nah man Russia is kind of old news, arguably there was a build up from years ago, and yeah feelings change over time, but if you ask me, nobody really needs to suffer...
That's why I'm shifting to voting for Republicans. Only one way to accelerate the enshittification of politics and that's by electing religious nutcases that will enforce their system on everyone.
Why do we want to accelerate it again? Honestly seems like some Russian "Keep America busy and out of conflicts" plan. I'd rather not vote in a group that will also make it harder to fix anything without a second civil war.
Mostly I'm just tired of smoothbrains complaining about the president when they are probably doing jack shit to change FPTP voting at their local, county and state levels. I know for some folks sarcasm doesn't come across too clearly on the Internet.