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chapotraphouse @hexbear.net DivineChaos100 [none/use name] @hexbear.net 5 mo. ago

r/collapse is the most insidious fash cesspool on reddit and they're not even hiding it anymore

Motherfuckers created a rule about how pointing out that overpopulation myths are ecofascistic lobbying is actually "bad faith" somehow so now every post, no matter what it is about, full of "this is why billions must die" bullshit.

There's 500k subscribers btw.

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Why are you concerning yourself with this?
- yeah OP stop concern trolling its just fascism
  
  So you go around the web and comment on all the fascism you find? To what end?
  
  nah i usually go around ratio-ing dumbasses
- "Why are you concerned with the normalization of the notion that some people being alive is just simply over the limits?"
  
  normalization
  
  You're talking about Reddit, not the New York Times.
  
  You're talking about Reddit, not the New York Times.
  
  whats the difference
  
  O_o
  
  were you surprised to discover that the new york crimes echoes the same ecofascist genocidal sentiments that we see on reddit
  
  they aren't anything new and have been around since at least the green revolution (in their modern iteration)
  
  were you surprised to discover that the new york crimes echoes the same ecofascist genocidal sentiments that we see on reddit
  
  No idea what you're rambling on about.
  
  I gotta ask, are you incapable of reading or are you unwilling to read? Because DivineChaos100 responded to you with two links to NYT articles about this issue, in this comment, which was posted before CarmineCatboy2 asked you to comment on those NYT articles. And yet, you're here acting as though this didn't happen. But I can read and I understand what time stamps are, so I know that you have been shown evidence that the NYT believes similar things to the r/Collapse subreddit before this comment where you pretend such a thing never happened.
  
  So I'll repeat CarmineCatboy2's question to you, and maybe you'll answer it this time: Were you surprised to discover that the new york crimes echoes the same ecofascist genocidal sentiments that we see on reddit?
  
  I gotta ask, are you incapable of reading or are you unwilling to read?
  
  You've missed an option here which is the option I noted: I didn't understand CarmineCatboy2's question.
  
  which was posted before CarmineCatboy2 asked you to comment on those NYT articles
  
  CarmineCatboy2 didn't ask me to comment on those NYT articles, they mentioned "new york crimes" which only now that I've read your comment do I realise is a play on the name "New York Times".
  
  you're here acting as though this didn't happen
  
  I'm not acting. I didn't understand what CarmineCatboy2 was going on about and I said as much. If I might be so bold as to offer some unsolicited advice: maybe in future just assume that when someone says they don't understand what another is saying, they're doing so because they don't understand what the other is saying.
  
  Were you surprised to discover that the new york crimes echoes the same ecofascist genocidal sentiments that we see on reddit?
  
  I'll rephrase this question in order to favour clear communication:
  
  Were you surprised to discover that the New York Times echoed the same ecofascist genocidal sentiments that we see on Reddit?
  
  I made no such discovery, I didn't look at the New York Times articles that were linked to. Had I discovered that, I would not be surprised.
  
  I didn't look at the New York Times articles that were linked to.
  
  sounds like you have a tendency to resist leaving your ideological tribal traps
  
  LOL not sure what tribal ideological traps you think the New York Times would have the weight to cause me to leave
  
  I admit it never even so much as crossed my mind that someone on the internet (and specifically commenting all over this thread) might not understand that the phrase "new york crimes" refers to the NYT. So one point to you I suppose.
  
  This probably also explains why you're confused in the subthread where someone told you this isn't the first time recently you've defended You probably think they're actually talking about the website actually called Stormfront. They're not. They're talking about reddit, which you did, in fact, defend not 20 hours ago.
  
  They're talking about reddit, which you did, in fact, defend not 20 hours ago.
  
  I disagree. I wasn't defending Reddit, I was questioning the rationality of a Lemmy poster. There's a difference.
  
  No investigation, no right to speak.
  
  Reddit communities with 500k subscribers, for better or for worse, can influence culture at large. Making a post to begin a discussion on the potential dangers of such a large community's moderation policies is not an unworthy endeavor.
  
  Making a post to begin a discussion on the potential dangers of such a large community's moderation policies is not an unworthy endeavor.
  
  This doesn't seem like such a post. Firstly, it doesn't seem to me like beginning a discussion on a Reddit community's moderation policies here has any worth. It might have worth if the discussion was begun in the Reddit community itself but I can't see any worth beginning a discussion here.
  
  Secondly, this post doesn't seem like an effort to begin an earnest discussion about potential dangers of moderation policies at all, it seems more like a mindless "ZOMG1!!!!1 LOOK AT THE FASCISTS ON REDDIT!!! WERE AMAZING AND THEIR STOOPID!!!"
  
  "ZOMG1!!!!1 LOOK AT THE FASCISTS ON REDDIT!!! WERE AMAZING AND THEIR STOOPID!!!"
  
  are you... personally invested in this?
  
  Lol
  
  lol,this isn't even the first time you've defended on here, shut up nerd
  
  this isn't even the first time you've defended on here
  
  Firstly, I'm not defending anyone. Secondly, I've no idea what you're referring to.
  
  I saw very little misogyny or rape apology. I see lots of hate towards the particular woman who lied but only one or two posts with misogyny out of hundreds and none with rape apology.
  
  Can you provide any links to the "rampant" comments which are misogyny or rape apology? As is, your post seems completely deranged.
  
  You don't remember posting this 19 hours ago, apparently.
  
  You don't remember posting this 19 hours ago, apparently.
  
  LOL of course I remember posting that. There's just no connection between your comment and mine, that I can tell.
  
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  It has been brought up multiple times there but it's banned outright as it's being "bad faith".
  
  I'm not suggesting doing that, I'm just contrasting the difference in value of discussions in the different fora.
  
  Maybe the "value of discussion" you see here is a direct consequence of the fact that normal discussion cannot be had about the topic over there.
  
  the "value of discussion" you see here
  
  I don't see any value though, that's the point.
  
  Hogs dont tend to appreciate fine cuisine
  
  ROFL
  
  holy shit you are certainly one... spectacle of a human being
  
  You flatter me!
  
  no no no
  
  We are amazing and they are stupid gtfo lib
  
  lib
  
  I don't know what you mean by that.
  
  You did understand gtfo though you dumbass
  
  I did. I understood "dumbass" too.
  
  Then leave both siding liberals. The communist are right its simple and youre in a communist space, gtfo
  
  LOL
  
  https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/01/us/the-unrealized-horrors-of-population-explosion.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/15/sunday-review/overpopulated-and-underfed-countries-near-a-breaking-point.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/09/18/opinion/human-population-global-growth.html
  
  And also we're talking about a sub with half a million people.
  
  half a million people
  
  In a subreddit. You consider half a million subscribers to a subreddit to be worthy of concern?
  
  Yes, i do.
  
  Can I ask why? Like what consequences do you envision from the existence of this community that concern you?
  
  Do i really have to spell it out why it is bad that the idea "some people are ballast" spreading is bad?
  
  You're talking here about a specific idea but I was just asking about the existence of the community at all. Regardless, OK, yes, please spell out what your concern is with that particular idea being discussed in the subreddit?
  
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  Shut the fuck up
  
  LOL
  
  LOL BANNED
  
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- Why are you concerning yourself with this?
  
  Goes on to make 30 comments in the thread
- Why are you concerned others are concerned? You like the idea of fascists hyping each other up in a 500k subscriber echochamber, is that your thing?
  
  Why are you concerned others are concerned?
  
  I would say I was curious, not concerned.
  
  You like the idea of fascists hyping each other up in a 500k subscriber echochamber, is that your thing?
  
  No. I'd love it if people were reasonable and rational and didn't fall into tribal ideological traps like fascism or communism or religion but that's not the world we live in.
  
  lmao "tribal ideological traps"
  
  Here's a simple question smart guy, define fascism and communism and don't be shy, clearly you're an authority on such matters
  
  "Man I just wished everyone was an enlightened centrist like me!" - that guy, probably
  
  centrist
  
  I don't even know what that word means.
  
  So why comment on politics if you don't even understand basic political terms?
  
  I haven't commented on politics in this thread.
  
  What do you think fascism and communism are?
  
  rah got banned. We'll unfortunately never hear their (no doubt incredible) thoughts on fascism and communism
  
  "Fascism is when the govt does stuff, and if it does a real lot of stuff, that's communism"
  
  You clearly also don't know what communist or fascist mean either. Makes me curious if you know what any words mean
  
  Indeed, a fascinating conundrum. Is it possible for humans to communicate?
  
  It's possible for the rest of us, but I'm not sure you understand how it works
  
  It's possible for the rest of us
  
  I'm curious to know how you determined that?
  
  I'm curious to know how you can't figure out how I determined that?
  
  oooh a fascinating conundrum.
  
  Shut the fuck up nerd.
  
  Everyone, look, it's the world's most enlightened person who's figured it all out! Whoa, such wisdom.
  
  Do you believe overpopulation is a major contributor to climate change?
  
  Edit: lol no answer 4 hours later I know you read this coward
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