What's something that's viewed as socially acceptable today that you think will become unacceptable 20 years from now?
What's something that's viewed as socially acceptable today that you think will become unacceptable 20 years from now?
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Driving ICE cars.
Driving
ICEcars.Nope.
It's insane to me how the fuckcars movement went from "we should have walkable cities and more public transport" to "ban all cars".
The stupidity of not realizing that farmers, plumbers, electricians, etc. need cars to keep modern society working is baffling to me. Not to mention that they fully expect people to go grocery shopping every single day, or it never crosses their mind because they have no idea what it takes to feed a large family.
It’s insane to me how the fuckcars movement went from “we should have walkable cities and more public transport” to “ban all cars”.
have you read the sidebar of the fuckcars communities?
From Wiki (emphasis mine):
The car-free movement is a broad, informal, emergent network of individuals and organizations, including social activists, urban planners, transportation engineers, environmentalists and others, brought together by a shared belief that large and/or high-speed motorized vehicles (cars, trucks, tractor units, motorcycles, etc.)[1] are too dominant in most modern cities. The goal of the movement is to create places where motorized vehicle use is greatly reduced or eliminated, by converting road and parking space to other public uses and rebuilding compact urban environments where most destinations are within easy reach by other means, including walking, cycling, public transport, personal transporters, and mobility as a service.
From Reddit (emphasis mine):
Discussion about the harmful effects of car dominance on communities, environment, safety, and public health. Aspiration towards more sustainable and effective alternatives like mass transit and improved pedestrian and cycling infrastructure.
From lemmy (emphasis mine):
An place to discuss problems of car centric infrastructure or how it hurts us all. Let’s explore the bad world of Cars!
Equating the fuckcars movement to "ban all cars" is like equating climate change to "ban all oil".
Not to mention that they fully expect people to go grocery shopping every single day, or it never crosses their mind because they have no idea what it takes to feed a large family.
My aunt feeds a family of five. She does not own a car, nor does she do grocery shopping every day. You know what's the answer? You had it right - “we should have walkable cities and more public transport”.
have you read the sidebar of the fuckcars communities?
Yes, and I've also seen the posts and comments. Which is more representative of the actual community.
I see posts and comments talking about how rail isn't better, bike lanes aren't more widespread, how too many parking lots is an issue... I don't see anyone saying cars should be banned outright.
Should have added a winky face. We can't ban cars, but definitely need to use cars less. Mostly a joke about how the current state of EVs is just green washing.
That's fair.
I was mostly venting my frustration over those silly posts anway. Since as long as humans have physical bodies, we will at times need individual transportation. And they sometimes act like literally everything in life can be done through public transport and excpeting people to bring home a couch on the bus.
Not to mention that they fully expect people to go grocery shopping every single day, or it never crosses their mind because they have no idea what it takes to feed a large family.
I had to do the grocery shopping for a household of 7 (3 of them teenagers) and the only reason I used a large vehicle to get those groceries is because there was no infrastructure for bicycles in that town. I didn't haul anything that couldn't also be hauled by a decent cargo bike.
These people live in a tiny little bubble, but the glass is dirty and they can't see outside. They probably have zero idea where their food comes from and how far it had to travel to make it to their wholefoods, or how different the lives of the people that grow it are to their own.
Yes, I agree on this with you, like cars are extremely inefficient way of transportation, especially considering how overcrowded our cities are and the general trend of making bigger and bigger cars that take even more space on the streets, on the parkings, etc.
How does one get across vast empty spaces in the US?