Why is the term "bloodline" often used instead of "family tree"?
Why is the term "bloodline" often used instead of "family tree"?
edit: The reason I find it an odd term is because human ancestry literally doesn't follow a line. It always branches off, even if only to just include two parents. It's a tree like structure, a line would misrepresent it
Blood line is a literal line of blood between the family. In-laws don’t count. It’s important when talking about royalty and you trace back whether someone has actual “royal blood” or is just an in law that married into the family.
So if you look at a family tree, the bloodline is the direct order from person a to person b, with everyone in the middle. It doesn't include everyone else that isn't in that direct path.
It doesn't include brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, marriage or anything like that.
Bloodline is a subset of the data in a family tree.
Does the line go directly from mom or dad?
Whichever path it takes. It will only go in a single path unless you have some incestuous relationships. And if that happens and multiple routes work, it doesn't matter which one you take.
It sounds cooler. I don't think it gets more complicated than that.
Who is actually using this term? I’ve only heard it in like medieval period fiction.
If I heard anyone start rambling about their bloodline I would immediately start to wonder if they were a fascist.
It's like "female". Nothing wrong with it per se, especially in a biological conversation, but it's more used with animals.
I think it’s a bit different. Female at least refers to a real biological trait (or at least collection of traits). As a scientist I use the word female in my work all of the time, and frankly I’m not sure what alternatives to it even exist.
Bloodline is like… weird racist antiquated European ideas about ancestry that are more or less completely unscientific and wrong. I don’t think I’ve ever once heard it used in a scientific context.
Maybe it’s used in animal breeding but that’s because animal breeding has uncomfortable connections with outdated race “science”. It doesn’t come from the real scientific community.
I don't like making presumptions but I've heard it from all sorts of people
Maybe a cultural or regional thing? Or is it related to a hobby or something? I can’t think of a single time I’ve heard this phrase in normal conversation.
When I hear "bloodline"
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I personally see "bloodline" as a specific, direct line of descendants through a certain genetic-based family, title, position, etc. Whereas a family tree is literally everybody you're related to, directly or not.
EDIT: As an example, I have an uncle on my mom's side of the family. He's not genetically related to me; he married into our family. He also brought a daughter from a previous marriage, so she's legally my cousin, but we're not genetically related at all. They married into my bloodline, but they aren'tof my bloodline, if that makes sense. They're part of my family tree.
Because theirs isn't actually a tree.
We can start using BloodTree universally in place of either....
I like it
Because trees are made of wood and without blood, your wood isn’t doing anything.
I should go.
They're different things.
A family tree is a representation of your ancestry by tracing backwards (usually, some people use the term for anything related to family ties). It's backwards in time, almost always.
Your bloodline is forwards in time from ancestor. The idea is that there is a clear line of descent from one person, or a small group (depending on how it's being applied in context).
Think of it in terms of race horses.
Secretariat had a family tree of horses before he came along. He had a dam and sire. They had dams and sires, and so forth. The tree, when laid out, may include siblings of secretariat, but wouldn't include "nieces and nephews" under normal circumstances because that's not really the point of the family tree as a term/idea. That steps into general genealogy.
However, from secretariat, you can trace records of horses descended from him, and that's literally his bloodline. That's his genetic line where his semen was used to make other horses.
Unlike horses, you couldn't guarantee paternity for humans until genetic testing came along. At best, you could exclude someone via blood typing, or some inherited features (like a cleft chin).
The term bloodline itself started before knowledge of genetics was a thing to any serious degree. Mendel didn't do his thing until the 1800s, and bloodline is a compound word that goes back 200 more years. But it is related as an idea. Related being the key word to that.
To reframe it, I have a family tree that includes a wide range of ancestors going back to Europe before we can't find anything on either my matrilineal, or patrilineal side. Both my father's surname and my mother's maiden name have been traced back at least as far as the 1700s. However, my "bloodline" descends from the oldest known ancestor, a man that had a different name because it was in German instead of being anglicized. It also descends from multiple other people, but you could trace each of those and determine who else shares that bloodline.
Me and my sister are the only living people that have the exact same family tree, but we share any given bloodline with thousands (at least) of known individuals.
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Could be to heighten the importance, but they are not exactly the same thing, as one is directly genetic. You may see the term used when talking about kings and queens.
I sort of feel that this has to be a concept born from eugenics to talk about how some lines are superior to others.
That would not surprise me
Due to increased narcissism within the population
Well, that is one explanation
A tree is a terrible representation since people will appear in more than one place on it. brother sisters marriages (which did happen) tend to produce deformed kids, but first cousins have good odds for normal kids. By third cousin odds of genetic issues was close enough to zero, but those kids will have six great great grand parents not the mathematical eight. I didn't mention half siblings but that happens too and a couple generations below could marry safely.
the above isn't just theoretical. Before modern transport you often lived and married in the same village for many generations. It would often be impossible to find anyone to have kids with that wasn't at least sixth cousins from more than one path.
Hmm, so we're looking more at some other sort of node graph