Gay couples rush to take oath of marriage before Trump takes oath of office
Gay couples rush to take oath of marriage before Trump takes oath of office
Some wedding venues, photographers and planners are offering free services to same-sex couples before Inauguration Day.
Summary
In response to Donald Trump’s re-election, some same-sex couples, like Ben Nelson and Adam Weinberger, are accelerating plans to marry, fearing potential rollbacks of LGBTQ rights.
Concerns stem from the Supreme Court’s 2022 overturning of Roe v. Wade and past statements from conservative justices suggesting interest in revisiting the 2015 Obergefell v. Hodges ruling that legalized same-sex marriage.
While the Respect for Marriage Act offers federal safeguards, uncertainty persists.
LGBTQ-friendly businesses are stepping up to support couples, but fears of broader restrictions, including on parenting options, remain widespread among the community.
Trump was great for the economy, people rushed to get married, buy hard drives, canned food, rice, life insurance policies, plan funerals, finish that bucket list...
I'm still shocked by the number of gay, black, latino and women votes Trump got this election. I wish they would realize that racism, sexism and homophobia are what drives Trump's most loyal and core supporters.
like anyone else gay, black, latino and women voters are themselves capable of racism, sexism and homophobia
They will sadly
The Republican Party is turning into the Taliban of the United States. On the other hand, Americans knew that and knew what Trump is all about when they voted, and they walked right into this with eyes wide open, serving both Houses of Congress and the Presidency to that party. We deserve everything that's coming to us.
there is US citizens not allowed to vote, and we did not choose this nor deserve it fuck that
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like Americans are going to learn until it really, really hurts. I hope we get all the pain that comes from this straight on. No relief until we start voting differently.
They aren't turning into; they have always been. They have finally consolidated power. I don't even live in the US and I am dreading the worldwide ramifications of your election. Where can I go to escape? The moon? Apparently not even that.
And at the same time Democrats are driving people right into their arms by refusing to address certain issues, and demonizing everyone, who isn't on board with 100% of their agenda, as a racist, bigot, etc.
Do these people not realize that the government can just invalidate their marriage and punish them?
Breaking up marriages is recognized worldwide as an act of genocide, but putting restrictions on who can marry isn’t as universally recognized.
They did it to my mom. She and her partner drove to San Francisco on that weekend when they were doing gay marriages in the mid 2000s. That ,marriage was canceled once they straightened iut the laws.
They're legally wed right here in Arizona now, but I wouldn't put it past these fucks to try to annul their marriage again.
I'd personally be afraid I'd be putting myself on a termination list tbh, but others are probably braver than me.
My husband and I did this after the Dobbs decision came down and cited 'future reconsiderations' for Casey and Obergefell. Called a handful of friends and family and told them to meet us at the courthouse in two weeks.
Now, we are bracing to help people who may have to travel to our blue state to get married, just like they had to 15-ish years ago. We may not be able to leave, but we have some means to help others, so we are doing what we can.
I'm a registered minister in the church of the latter day dude based out of Oregon and am happy to marry lgbtq folks.
My partner and I got our partnership right after the election on a lazy day
I wonder what the chances are that the coming administration invalidate such marriages, probably on some dumb Christian nationalist grounds
Anything is possible, but it would be far more difficult to invalidate existing marriages than prevent new ones. Which is exactly why couples are rushing to get it done now.
They are openly stating they will deport legal citizens... so, acting like their should be no concern might not be a great idea.
No one should bet against it.
the Democrats defended Roe v. Wade so hard it fell so it is scary what four years of Republican rule will bring
We don't get much from the democrats. But at least we do get something. I'd really hate to be one of those people that spent the whole last year as "useful idiots" for foreign Nations and oligarchs. Screaming about how Democrats are just the same as Republicans and just genocidal murders.
I assume most didn't want things to get worse. Didn't want trump. This has to be like ashes on their tongue. I hope that they and the people they misinformed/demotivated. Will be ready to show solidarity if we're ever given another chance at elections. And do what it takes to keep Republicans and their allies far away from any elected office for the rest of their lives.
Gay marriages seem a bit purer to me because you know it's not about kids. They legit like each other.
I'm heterosexual and we were marred for 10 years before we had a kid. My brother has been married to a woman almost 30 years and has never had kids. My uncle has been married to a woman almost 50 years and has never had kids. I have lots of friends who are heterosexual and married and have no kids.
And there are two queer couples I'm friends with that do have kids.
On top of that, I know people with kids who never got married.
Marriage and children are really not related except when it comes to certain legal issues.
I was thinking more being socially forced to marriage thanks to issues revolving around biological kids which to me "ruins the sanctity" of marriage. Meanwhile gay people don't have that issue. Like oh no someone got my pregnant if I don't get marriage my family stone me but my partner is a one night stand that I found out is a serial killer.
I know multiple same-sex couples that got married explicitly for the purpose of being allowed to adopt.
Well least it's not like biological clock is ticking so get pregnant now or else leading to bad choices.
Well, some gay couples do have kids. Some men have ovaries and some women have testicles.
Marriage is a vow, not an oath.
I understand why the headline is what it is but my inner grammar enthusiast can't just let it slide.
What's the difference? I tried looking and there are various minor differences but none that would make one more applicable to marriage than the other. The argument would come down to the personal position of the person getting married. Not really something you can dictate the terminology over.
I understand the confusion, a lot of terms have been conflated so frequently that the definitions of the terms themselves have been adapted to the usage rather than people getting educated on the correct use of terminology.
A good, and common example of this that was highlighted by the Simpsons, of all things, is the difference between jealousy and envy.
Jealousy is the feeling of fear of loss of a thing, and envy is the feeling of wanting what someone else has. If you look at the definition of jealousy now, it shows that jealousy basically has both definitions because the use of the word has changed because most of the population doesn't care, and uses jealousy when they mean envy.
I'd have to dive into the etymology of the terms for evidence but on the surface and from my own knowledge, an oath is a commitment to an office, like the court, King, country, etc. A vow is a promise to an individual.
Legal proceedings have always cared about the textbook definitions of things, which is why we see oaths taken in court, when taking a position in government or the military, etc. And vows for things like marriage. I would always fall back on legal definitions for the first hint at what the etymology of the term is, and an indication of it's correct usage, rather than the adapted usage by the public which often gets written into dictionaries.
My inner grammar enthusiast likes to use the correct terms for things like vow vs oath and jealous vs envious. It tickles my brain in a way that I like. At the same time, I try not to be so rigorous about it that I hold others to my standards. It's more important that I understand what you mean, rather than enforcing that you use the right words when you say it.
Isn't going to help when the Republicans and the Republican Supreme Court goes after Obergefell v. Hodges.
I feel like this is a good way to get yourself on a target list.
They're likely on a list already if that's the case, but it is standing for what they believe in
Should've been codified back in 2015. The fuck, Obama.
Show me how much you don’t know about presidential power, or history.
Yep, that's on the congress. Which Democrats did not have sufficient control of. Which Republicans/DINOs would have struck down hard if they even tried. But simple minds do love simple solutions for complex problems. Regardless of whether they work or not.