If Luigi had killed that CEO with a car he'd be free right now

This is incredibly reductive and makes us look like idiots who don't understand "intent".
I get it, fuck cars, but this is ridiculous and only serves to make us look like a joke
- "Oops, my foot slipped on the wrong pedal."
  Intent without confessions and manifestos may not be that easy to prove.
  
  They're not comparable.
  If I'm at a firing range, where it is expected that people are carrying guns and ammunition, I can pull the same "oops, my finger slipped" excuse.
  Similarly, if I drive my car around the side of your house and into your back yard to run you over, I can't claim "my foot slipped".
  Seriously, stop with the mental gymnastics. We don't need to reach for more reasons to say "fuck cars." There are plenty within arms reach
  
  Recklessness generally also works in place of intentionally. Negligence is even lower, but is often reserved for civil suits.
- Then there's the Sacklers pushing everyone on opioids until the US public is addicted and getting fentanyl off the street. 82,000 deaths in 2022. The trend is that number is rising.
  Was it intentional that Purdue started the epidemic? Their lobbyists pushed doctors to over prescribe them including for instances that didn't warrant them, including material bonuses. So not really, but their shareholders really like dividends even if people have to die for them.
  Was it legal? Well, it hasn't been made illegal yet
  See, were not looking at the true evil.
  In the case of cars, its not really the driver, but in the US, the stanglehold on transit held by big automotive and big fossil fuel. We have lots of highways (the Interstate Highway System is the biggest single project in the world) and they keep killing high speed trains and begrudge municipal transit, and parking requirements assure that every city is a sprawl of delineated asphalt.
  There's the evil. And since its propelling the climate crisis (and we're running out of water) it is going to kill us all.
  Too bad they threw billions at the far-right propaganda machine to push the fascist autocrat over the non-white non-male that wanted to transition to renewables.
  Guns are pushed in the US, and kept fairly unregulated by the munitions companies. Their ads imply you can't be a real man without a loaded firearm. I never got it, but everyone male on the far-right is super sensitive about their masculinity. And they really like guns.
  
  🙌PREACH🙌
  These are the types of arguments we ought to be making memes about. Well reasoned, well spoken, and based in facts that are irrefutable
  Kudos. Thank you for doing "fuck cars" the right way 💪❤️
- I'm sure that kid in Texas totally didn't have intent when he ran over 12 people then backed up over them again
  
  And did that kid get off with a "oopsies!"? No? Then how is that related to this thread?
- Yeah, and I'm bored by it. Gonna block now
- You're not helping. Stop being an inflammatory troll

Murder is with the intention to kill. This would apply for using a car as a weapon as well and courts do go after these cases in practice, of sniping a target with a car.
But they are too lenient on deathly accidents with gross negligence.
- This would apply for using a car as a weapon as well and courts do go after these cases in practice, of sniping a target with a car.
  Unless the driver admitted to wanting to kill someone on purpose with their car, the grey area between "I didn't see them" to "I don't know what happened." makes it so that drivers are often only given a citation for a traffic violation (i.e. not stopping at a stop sign), if the victim is lucky enough for that level of "justice".
  It's very rare to see a driver be convicted of anything beyond vehicular manslaughter, including when you have a history of driving offences, and run off like a coward after running over a cyclist.
  edit: grammar
  
  With a random killing you might get indeed away, but murders are usually targeted. In case a deadly accident happens, and it can be proven the driver had a conflict with that person, it does turn the case around.
- Plot twist, the person killed is a protester.
  
  do that next year, and you'll get a medal and a cabinet post.

My friend's mom got run over recently. The guy had the alcohol percentage that indicated he'd don't at least ten shots of hard liquor in an hour and he was going well over the speed limit. He got her so hard it crumpled the front of his truck.
But in Cali, since it's a first time offence, he's getting like, a thousand dollar fine. The cremation is going to cost more.
- What the fuck?
- I know this is stupid, but I'd argue any accident while drunk is premeditated murder. You knowingly got drunk. You knowingly got behind the wheel of a ton of metal and aimed it at someone. Maybe the person wasn't chosen specifically, but your other actions are those of someone aiming to kill and preparing to do so in advance. You should be put away for the rest of your life.
  And driving under the influence is attempted murder. Who gives a shit if you didn't manage to hit anyone? You still tried to kill them, you cunt.

And if you setup a system were people die preventable, unnecessary deaths the cops will work for you.

Innocent until proven guilty.
Luigi didn't kill that CEO as far as we know, and titles like this don't help an innocent man.

- He would obviously just lie and say it was an accident. I would match his story.
- This, plus gun-related accidents happen all the time, and they're called accidents. Nobody calls those murder. I sympathize with the intent here, but this meme doesn't make any sense

So, luigi should have used a car instead?
Got it.

True for Germany, too. The killers sometimes even get to keep their drivers licenses.
- ... with judges explaining their non-judgements with some totally rediculous arguments like: he has already suffered the worst... having to live with the fact he klilled someone, so there's no reason for further punshment.
- But there was a case where someone was convicted for murder because he was involved in an illegal car race and should have known better. Yes, illegal car races are a thing in Germany
  Edit: This isn't the case I had in mind. I remember vague that the victim was an (elderly) man
  
  Might be worth mentioning that "illegal car race" does not (necessarily) mean fast and the furious style street racing.
  According to § 315d StGB (the German penal code), driving recklessly and violating traffic laws with the intention of reaching the highest speed does constitute an illegal race.

It could be hard to explain why he had to drive it up on the sidewalk and squeeze between the curb-parked cars and the building on accident. And also why it was covered in silencers.
- You don't need silencers, just a prius or similar.
  Actually a tesla could be good for this: just need to figure out a way to trick the self driving into thinking the sidewalk is a car lane, and the CEO is a small child. /s
  
  Why did you add /s, that would work

Works for the Walton family. You know, for those nights of heavy drinking, where you just wanna bounce some peasants off your grill.

And if you kill a CEO is terrorism
- And if you kill a protester or a homeless black man then you are a hero

Does this work for car bombs? Asking for a friend

Related: https://www.brain-worms.com/p/where-can-a-car-kill-me

But only if he's also a singer.

I find this first-name-terms chumminess with a probable murderer very distasteful and sad.
To the drive-by downvoters: Consider whether you (yes, you) would be willing to come out from behind your keyboard and say the things you say here to this murdered man's family, his wife, his children. Of course you wouldn't. You're complete hypocrites and you really need to examine your consciences.
- "Your husband and dad was a POS and made the lives of thousands of people worse, and some certainly died because of the way he decided to operate his company. He deserved to die. And, quite frankly, he should have suffered some more in his death. I truly only hope that as he laid there bleeding to death, all the evil he had done weighed upon his conscience, and that he knew he had it coming."
  
  You're lying to yourself. If you were prepared to say that to the innocent family of a murder victim, no matter who they were, you would be a psychopath. Much more likely you're just a hypocrite, venting. Thankfully.
- Agreed! It's disgusting how people are defending the killer Brian Thompson. Who knows how many people are dead because of his greed.
- If my dad were a psychopathic mass-murdering corporate goon, I'd testify at his killer's sentencing to plead for the judge and jury to be as lenient as possible
  
  No you wouldn't and you know that very well.
- To the drive-by downvoters: Consider whether you (yes, you) would be willing to come out from behind your keyboard and say the things you say here to this murdered man’s family, his wife, his children. Of course you wouldn’t. You’re complete hypocrites and you really need to examine your consciences.
  I don't know why you think that I wouldn't be able to tell the Thompson Family that Brian was a murderer for profit. Because he was.
  
  I think it because I choose to believe that most people are not bad, and that includes you.
- Hi, grow up.
  Drive by complete
- I mean I'm pretty sure his family is pleased too, he's a piece of garbage..and if they aren't happy he's dead because he "provided for them" or some bs, they are also garbage. So yeah I'm chill.