6d ago

Why this one instead of 196?

Sidebar doesn't say why, but it does say I have to post, so I guess I'm posting to ask why!

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Ho boy, where to start...
The moderators of the community !196@lemmy.blahaj.zone had disagreements with the admin team of blahaj.zone (Ada) and decided they wanted to move to lemmy.world.
The !196@lemmy.blahaj.zone community was locked with an announcement to visit !196@lemmy.world instead. This caused confusion/anger among much of the community who preferred the way blahaj.zone is run as an instance.
Ada did not want to forcefully reopen the !196@lemmy.blahaj.zone community and boot the mod team, but also did not want to leave the users of 196 feeling like they had no choice but to use the lemmy.world community, so she ~~opened~~ promoted !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone (which displays as 196) which is run by a different mod team.
There was still a lot of disagreement about the attempted move to !196@lemmy.world, so the mods reopened the previous !196@lemmy.blahaj.zone community to placate folks.
The end result is that there are now three 196 communities (plus a 4th on Hexbear I think) which are each relatively active.
Edit: typos.
Edit 2: correction about the origin of !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone
- So a transporter malfunction basically
  
  I've seen a couple of people say this now, so I will clarify that Ada did not open this community, SoleInvictus did! Ada did however feature it and make a post on the old 196 which lead here.
  Edit: This was supposed to be a reply to Stovetop :P oh well
- there are now three 196 communities (plus a 4th on Hexbear I think) which are each relatively active
  This one on Blahaj has by far the most posts. The "original" Blahaj 196 and .world 196 have fewer posts but their most upvoted ones tend to have around the same or slightly more upvotes than the most upvoted posts on here.
  It's all so stupid though. Why don't they at least close one of the two 196's? If their migration failed, just admit it and close the community on World. If they truly want to migrate and don't want to moderate on Blahaj under Ada, then close the old one.
- The end result is that there are now three 196 communities (plus a 4th on Hexbear I think) which are each relatively active.
  There's also !19684@lemmy.blahaj.zone which is apparently "196 but no sex or hornyposting"
  
  19864 is also a combination of 196 and libertyhub. Mostly apolitical memes with a few leftist memes sprinkled in and like libertyhub annoying libs who call all leftists "tankies" arent allowed.
  
  I can never look at it, because honry is all I got
- I've noticed that lemmy.world is delisted from most instance lists, so it's interesting that they'd choose that one. Thank you for the answer!
  
  About that: Lemmy.world is generally disliked for entirely reasonable reasons. They are the biggest instance due to it being seen as the default during the API exodus, and having a large population means that you are going to see a lot of trolls. Their mod policies also are very lenient with trolls, which a lot of people don't like. Also, people are kinda sick of how all the big communities are on .world instead of being spread out across the fediverse.

About two weeks ago, the mods of @196@lemmy.blahaj.zone made an announcement that they were closing the community because they were moving to @196@lemmy.world due to disagreements with this instances moderation policies. I'm not going to touch on what exactly those policies were, and to be honest I don't think it matters. What did piss everyone off was the mod team trying to pick up and and move the entire place without fair warning. It also looked to the public eye like it was done in secret, which made the whole thing look sketchy and gross. This resulted in a huge, huge backlash against the mods, and they reversed course real fast.
This community was formed in reaction to that betrayal, and we've consistently had better engagement than @196@lemmy.blahaj.zone ever since. A lot of the users here are pretty far from being ready to forgive and forget.
- Ohh, thanks. I can see why that would cause a lot of anger.
  
  I'm sure every other commenter's pointed this out, but they did pour gas on the fire with a very poorly thought out explanation/apology post (prior to the final "we are reversing course" post) that read very much like "We are sorry that you were offended by our justified and reasonable actions 🥺 pls stop being mad, we're just a small bean"

What pissed me off was when one of the original mods of the original community pretty much stated that they “owned” the community and can do what they want with it… I was uncomfortable being around that kind of mindset.

I like it here cause they just made rules against tankie behavior. Yes this has kicked up a lot of dirt as the tankies are kicking and sealioning like they usually do when pushed against. But as an anarchist, I like that they have taken this stance as it makes me feel welcome. They also are cracking down on any sort of bigotry in general which I like that they are making it a safe and welcoming place. Lastly, I think the posts are better (although you might be seeing a lot of pro and anti-tankie posting till the dust settles). I just blocked the lemmy.ml instance cause I am fed up with their bullshit
- Tankies are so annoying. Authoritarians in general, really.

Mods here are cooler

It split off when the mods of the other one tried to force a migration to .world

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