Some have noticed the new iPhone 15 is not as strong or as durable as the older generations of iPhones.
People considering 'cancelling' new iPhone order after seeing comparison between older generation::Some have noticed the new iPhone 15 is not as strong or as durable as the older generations of iPhones.
Block everything from L4S. This bot is responsible for a good 50% of posts in this community. Who owns it, and what are their motives, what narrative are they trying to push?
It's almost like buying something as soon as it comes out brings the risk that it won't be in full working order and will still have significant flaws. I'm not sure that that's exactly news. But the fact that people who are so in love with the iPhone that they are willing to get rid of a perfectly good working iPhone and unnecessarily upgrade for vanity are willing to back out is moderately interesting/telling. I feel like the pre-order group in any market is always surprised when the thing they pre-ordered is not 100% as good as they were promised. But then they will continue to pre-order...
This is part of the reason. For a decade every year the new devices actually came with new and actually improved features.
However, the other part of the problem is the way these devices were and continue to be marketed. Having a big event to talk every little improvement up and overhype the new devices works to some degree.
Maybe they have a six year old phone and are interested in upgrading? I don't think that many people are doing yearly upgrades nowadays, it's expensive and pointless.
Not even six. I switched from SE 2020 to 15 pro. The battery was awful. This one should easy last me till the next major change, which is replaceable batteries forced by EU.
I’ve got a 12 and will be upgrading to a 15 Pro mainly due to my current phone having a scratch and I really want the USB-C charging option so that I can finally have a single charger type for everything.
Outside of the USB-C change, I don’t see much of a difference between my current 12 and the base 15, hence why I’m going for the 15 Pro. If not for the USB-C, I’d be sticking with my lightly-scratched 12.
Even then why have yearly releases if a phone release can last 2 years easily, but no they need the newest possible tech that only scales in increments.
When it comes to Android, updates. Especially for some of the cheaper phones where they don't support updates past the next version of Android.
Which really only matters to people that actually give a shit about updates. A lot of people in Android spaces online seem absolutely flummoxed by this but many people simply do not care or actively dislike "the latest and greatest" updates. They tend to change things people liked, they increasingly break functionality in the name of "security", and they often come with UI changes people find frustrating.
If the user is comfortable with their device, many would like it to stay that way. And that's not an invalid feeling.
I used to anticipate Android updates, but ever since 10, I've had zero desire to upgrade further. I'm not buying a new phone for the benefit of having my file explorer broken.
Some people will call you stupid for this, because it leaves you vulnerable to exploits that don't get patched, but whatever.
Pixel 8 comes with 7 years of OS updates. Also pure OS so no preinstalled bloatware. For all Pixel devices so far, with a click of a setting can unlock the boot loader to root and flash custom roms as suggest by user below. IDK why anyone would use anything but Pixel phones for their Android experience.
I would use a custom ROM/root the phone, but I also hate SAF. If you like cuatomisablity, and control over your own device however, it would make no sense to get an iPhone.
For Apple products there is the petty "status symbol" thing. If I share my experience, my father has a mania of buying such stuff only for the sake of imagining that he is on some position where he is like, "Oh I own this and that, you peasants won't understand." The macbook he bought many months ago now lies dusted on a shelf because it is practically useless to everyone in the household at the moment. It's a total waste of money for something no one cares about but him. I do not argue about it as it is a waste of time for me. It's his dogma and his money. I have a more rational mindset of looking at things with a materialistic approach i.e. analytically measuring an object's use value rather than its prestige.
I don't know how many people do upgrade that frequently tbh.
I mean, anecdotal obviously, but the 15 has been out for a couple of weeks now and I don't know anyone (IRL) who has one. Most of the people I know are rocking phones that are two or three years old at least at this point. My mum has a 14PM that she's had a year that replaced her X. My wife has a regular 14, which was a replacement for an 11. Those are the only two people I know that have a 14.
I think it's fair to say that people as a whole are upgrading less frequently, which is reflected in how much these things cost now, which is part of the reason people are upgrading less frequently...
Usually the camera or other things. I usually upgrade every year because I’m on the upgrade program. Last year added the satellite SOS which meant I didn’t have to worry about no service. That and I took the opportunity to switch to the max because my eye sight got worse. I didn’t bother upgrading this year, I saw no reason. I don’t need USB-c, I use a MagSafe charger and have more lighting cables than usb-c. The feature to locate your friends using the ultra wideband chip is neat but requires your friends have a 15 as well. And I don’t really have a need for the shortcut button.
You know what? I'll accept that. That's a decent indicator that the article was written by a human who missed the 1 key and hit the Q key just below it, and not a chatbot.
You have to if you want the device in the next month or so. The model I was looking at slipped to November less than 24 hours after pre-orders started.
Steel ( including stainless) is up to twice as stiff as titanium - meaning it flexes half as much under load for the same thickness/shape. It’s also almost twice as heavy. To get a rigid material that is also lightweight, you need to look at exotic alloys like beryllium-aluminum, but the trade off I’d often poor toughness (fracture resistance) and difficult manufacture.
Last I checked, these phones are full of glass. And glass is incredibly rigid - far more rigid than steel (and lighter than steel too). Also, glass doesn't block light or radio waves or magnetic fields... which is the why basically all of modern phones are full of glass.
Anyway, since there's so much glass, the titanium doesn't need to be rigid. It just needs to be able to handle an impact reasonably well and look nice. Titanium does both better than steel.
The primary metal in these phones is Aluminium by the way. That metal is very soft and doesn't look great especially once you've dropped the phone. There's a thin Titanium outer coating somehow bonded to the Aluminium - they have a single piece of metal made of with two completely different metals. Clearly Apple isn't afraid of making a phone that's difficult to manufacture.
There's probably 20x more aluminium than titanium in the phone. Aluminium is very light... and it's drawback (scratches/dents easily) is eliminated by the 1mm of titanium bonded to it.
The thin glass substrates do add some rigidity, but the more rigid a frame the less stress is borne by the glass under impact. I would not be surprised to find the frame is mostly Al. It’s light, and strong - common, properly tempered alloys are as strong (yield, not ult) or stronger than stainless. Of course the 1/3 density comes with just 1/3 stiffness. No free lunches.
The kind of people who will buy this phone when last year's one is perfectly fine still, are not the kind of people who will cancel when they find out it's not worth the upgrade cost.
I had a new pool water heating system installed 8 years ago. I noticed it was leaking and the bottom line was that 8 out of 10 pads had ruptured. They replaced them all under warranty. I could tell they were none too happy to just eat a day of labor costs, even if they were able to pass the parts cost on to the manufacturer. They had the nerve to bill me $59 for the initial service call where they responded to my inquiry though. I told them they should watch their mailbox for my check.
I like iPhones but titanium does seem like an odd choice. Sure it looks nice but who daily drives a $1000 phone without having it wrapped in a case anyway? Feels like a sales tactic.
The titanium was added to make it more lightweight vs stainless steel. It's more durable for its weight but the phones seem to be less durable overall.
I mean, a lot of people. I have a pixel fold I use naked, and when I had iPhones I never used a case. I paid a lot for the phone, I'm not gonna cover it in a piece of tpu. They also just make phones even more unwieldy than they already are. If you have kids I get it I guess.
I've been using sleeves/pouches since the Nexus 5 as I really prefer using a naked phone. I really liked them, protection in the pocket and also a clean phone as it's cleaned every time you put it in and out of the sleeve.
I've gotten clumsy though over the years so I think for my next phone I'll have to get a proper case. I'll hate it, but it's better than a damaged phone 😢