Grizzly bear kills couple and their dog at Banff National Park in Canada
Grizzly bear kills couple and their dog at Banff National Park in Canada
Officials did not identify the victims but a family member told CBC News the people who died were a couple who were experienced backcountry hikers.
Fucking hell. My wife and I wanted to plan our next hiking trip and go to Banff, then started reading about the grizzly threat. It seemed real, and there are so many beautiful places to go, so we dropped it.
Then, about a week ago, a guy in the gym at work is telling me about his trip to Banff where they took their kids along too. I started thinking maybe we should go for it. Now I read this awful news. Suddenly it once more seems like a bad idea.
Article says responders killed the bear, so technically it should be safer now...
This is making headline news because of how rare it is. Something to think about.
Interesting editorial choice to stick a photo of a sick sunrise in the middle of an article about a bear mauling.
"only 14% of grizzly bear attacks are fatal" seems like this just downplays the danger. If a product on the shelves had "only 14%" chance of causing cancer people would be livid.
Considering bears are 8ft long 900lbs killing machines an 86% survival rate is actually pretty fucking good.
Also if you're dumb enough to downplay the danger involving grizzly bears for any reason you're not going to live long anyway
Ok, but how likely is a grizzly attack?
According to the US Natl Park Service it is 1 in 2.1 million. Dying from a bee sting is more likely.
Well dying from a bee sting if you’re allergic is pretty common if you don’t have an epi pen. So yes, common.
There is a massive difference and approach to bears it on a special park Vs wild.
Over in your city folk safari zoo, in which you think you’re ‘in the wild’, you are not.
In the wild, Grizzlies will rip you. https://youtu.be/K-Tfq6dARGk?si=EQLh0ahqdzOVkRWJ
They are very fuckin dangerous. And very fuckin fast. They eat other grizzly bears without mercy too. Especially if there’s not enough salmon around.
In Canada kills by bears in the green belt is a known risk and they have procedures to try to lessen interference with the wild life for this reason. That’s the only reason why the deaths are down. It’s not like rural people are flaunting themselves at wildlife and have them as pets. The deaths start going up when city folk start wandering into the wild thinking every bear is a big ol puppy dog.
What an odd correlation: bear attacks and products on shelves.
Are you implying that people might want to purchase bear attacks? Like a carnival ride?
And there are a good number of products that do have a good chance of causing cancer...so...what was your point?
You seem to not understand that there are idiots that see a bear and think it’s perfectly ok to go up and pet it like a dog.
“Sharks don’t actually try to kill humans, they just get curious and take exploratory bites”
Obviously that’s not a direct quote, but I people say things like it in defense of sharks frequently.
Lol.
I would need to see the specifics of that statistic but understand that most people who are in a situation to be attacked by a bear have done the research on what to do.
For a grizzly? Play dead while protecting your vitals to the best of your ability. So you either play dead or get knocked unconscious and effectively ARE dead. And then you live.
It is mostly untrained people who have no business being in the back country who die. Or people who are unfortunate enough to get between mama and her cubs.
So its one of those things where there are a LOT of other factors and not many actual attacks to begin with.
There's actually an interesting statistic where bear attacks from black bears are more likely to happen from the males, whereas attacks from grizzlies are more likely to happen from the females.
Black bear cubs have a strategy to run up the nearest tree when threatened and the mama bear guards the base of the tree rather than going on the offensive, so you are able to back away and avoid an attack a lot easier than a female grizzly, since grizzly cubs don't instinctually climb trees when threatened but inside rely on the mother to defend them by going on the offensive.
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See, stuff like this is why I stay inside. The bears can have the outdoors.
The bears can share the outdoors with people. This story is light on details but bear spray is considered the best defense against bear.
I've camped many times in bear country and slept in a tent. I kept bear spray with me at all times and fortunately had no problems...knock on wood. Most of the time it is OK but you have to be intelligent about it. Don't leave food out, carry bear spray, stay away from bear as much as possible, etc.
Also, there are plenty of great outdoor places you can go that don't have bear. Not saying they're risk free, almost nowhere is risk free. But there are "safer" parks, etc. (not "safe", just "safer").
I would never want to be only stuck inside. There's too much amazing to see outside.
Staying inside is no defence against bears.
a shotgun is probably the only thing that would've saved them. or, just choosing not to hike in bear country at this time of year. This is when the more desperate bears will eat anything that moves. They aren't picky, and playing dead will not save you if a bear is extremely hungry, as they are in drought conditions. just a tragic reminder that bears can and will kill, and eat you under certain circumstances.
Should have brought a gun.
No. Should have brought bear spray. Apparently the latest wisdom is that guns aren't very effective against bear but the spray is.
ETA: Here is Wikipedia on the subject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_danger
If they have the right to bear arms, so shall I.
Agree but you need to be very mindful for the type of gun.
Any more typical pistol like 9mm, 380, 45ACP won't do much against a bear. 10mm high penetration rounds (ie not holopoints, hard cast is preferable) is probably the minimum I'd want if I can't carry a rifle in bear country.
A lot of common calibers really don't do much against a damn grizzly, those bastards have every possible cheat code active.
Good ol idiot gun nuts piping in to let us know that every problem can be solved with more guns.
From someone firmly against the proliferation of firearms, I think taking a gun on a camping trip where there might be bears is a pretty solid idea.