[Article] Speed limit proposed for active transportation routes
[Article] Speed limit proposed for active transportation routes
A Winnipeg councillor’s bid to create a speed limit for bicycles, electric bikes and scooters on active-transportation pathways is raising questions of whether such a restriction would be adequately e...
A proposal to keep pedestrian and cycling pathways from turing into "raceways" by city councilor, though local roads that once were public walkways are okay as raceways?
I'm not from Winnipeg, but this never works. Obviously, these people have not looked into the legal ramifications. A bicycle is unlicensed. This means there is no requirement to have qualified vision, testing, competency, there is no established form of measurement of speed, and no standardization of devices. Places have tried to license bikes for the last 150 years and all have failed. This has an extremely long history of being useless nonsense.
Absolutely every issue involving bikes is extremely simple to solve. All it takes is a designated right if way. Right of way applies to everyone all the time. Foot traffic needs to be reminded of this constantly. A right of way means one person in one lane. It is not a sidewalk, or optional. If you are in North America, and you are not on the right side as far to the right as practicable, you are on the wrong side. Every single problem happens because of stupid people that do not follow the right of way.
In Toronto shared paths are limited to 20Kph, which seems like a reasonable compromise to me.
If close calls or accidents were happening, we should study the causes. Is it due to bikes going faster than it is safe? Due to pedestrians walking in the left/middle of the path? Due to poor visibility around tight corners? Each of those problems have different solutions.
We barely study the cause of accidents on our roadways in Canada and refuse to believe we could design them safer and instead consider fatal interactions with cars as "accidents". I doubt governments are willing to study this in active transportstion paths given they barely want to fund the paths anyway and most municipalities still consider bicycle gutters as safe.
City's should look at what the Finnish people are doing, IMO they seem to do it very well. Here is a great video for anyone interested in cycling pathways and how much thought goes into them.
yeah, i think some people go too fast in crowded areas of mixed use paths. but that's just my opinion, are people actually getting injured?
i don't think so, but i admittedly don't know for sure. my guess is motor vehicles kill more people per mile than fast bicycles injure or kill on shared paths.
If stuck behind a paywall try this link:
This didn't work for me. But this did: https://archive.ph/EGNwj
Thank you
Paywalled.
I posted a link with the paywall removed in the comments incase anyone else comes up on the same issue.
Tyvm
Harder to do on mobile otherwise I’d likely have done it myself.
Instead of drafting new laws, administering fines, and criminalizing people who are just trying to get their fucking groceries home, how about spend that money on a second trail.
Need to keep the revenue flowing... Fuckin road pirates
Not everyone lives in a cityscape hellhole so we are going to need higher speeds to be able to not suck up people's free time just to be able to get within range of a job without living in a sardine can apartment complex.
Not everyone can live within 1 mile of their job, and travel via bike -- nor does everyone want to.
If you're going to limit everyone and everything to 5mph, then you need an alternative that provides a quicker means of travel in rural/suburban areas.
cityscape hellhole
sardine can
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This is an article about imposing speed limits on existing bike paths for existing people with existing bikes. Nobody (sadly) wants to take away your Dogde Ultra RAM 40K, and you're still free to live wherever you want, dipstick.
Get back to r/fuckcarscirclejerk and have fun burning your strawmen with your fascist friends there.
Yeah, 6.2mph is silly even just from a riding perspective. I am not the most fit and I'm fairly sure I would need to force myself to ride that slow (and it'd probably feel less stable). Around other people sure.
12.4mph is not so bad, at least with my underpowered ebike I'd have to really put in a lot of power to go above that and it'd use up too much battery power (and thus range). If anything I stay around 9/10mph for efficiency (and it's just a comfortable riding pace, also I have an upright riding position so not the most aerodynamic). My ebike's motor cuts off at 15.5mph (even though again, it doesn't really go that fast) because EU rules (even though I'm in the US).
6.2 is just over nine minutes a mile. Amateur runners typically move faster than that. 12.4mph would fall on the slow side for an amateur cyclist.
Not everyone can live within 1 mile of their job
why
"My right to injure and kill people is more important that other members of the community's safety"
You're in a huge AC'ed vehicle, the most comfortable seat thousands of engineers can design. Essentially a living room on wheels. You'll be fine.