Just Started Using Revolt (Discord Alternative)
Just Started Using Revolt (Discord Alternative)
Find your community, connect with the world. The chat platform that puts you first.
So far I really like it, anyone else using it? I'm really considering setting up the discord bridge and just using revolt
It's not decentralized and e2ee is not implemented.
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Matrix only partially has e2ee and its e2ee is time based and breaks under high latency
Sometimes a public utility doesn't need to be decentralized to function effectively
It helps, but also the lack of e2ee is a pretty hard sell..
then let me introduce you to IRC
Honestly it's just going from one bad app host (discord) to another that could be less bad but still has all your data (revolt). You can host your own revolt server but you won't be able to join any of revolts servers. Matrix is just plain better for privacy and security. I do like to see more alternatives out there tho
The problem with matrix is that the standard isn't standardized. Its constantly changing and the matrix server software is buggy
edit: just to be clear I'm not saying revolt is better
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You're free and welcome to use encryption very frequently. Matrix also keeps a list of everyone who has read each and every message.
Such is life being on the internet, really.
You couldn't stop it even on IRC. At least here you can host your own Matrix instance.
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Most important to me: Which of them is easier to self-host?
I've been running a Mumble server for my friends for over a decade now and I'd like... something more without having to get too technical. Mumble is literally just a single apt-get and you're basically done, so that's about the level of technical expertise that I bring to the table. I've tentatively looked into other solutions over the years but I always feel my attention drifting when the setup-tutorial covers multiple pages and starts with manually configuring some database or certificate authority or whatever. Sorry, I didn't mean for this to get too ranty.
I settled on XMPP for general chat. Very easy to set up, doesn't eat much resources. I did think about trying Matrix, but I am afraid it would eat up too much resources, especially disk space.
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Why not Element/Matrix?
Revolt is simple and works almost exactly the same as Discord. Element requires understanding federation, and it's "spaces" feature is not the same as Discord "servers".
Really wish that IRC allowed to have all the new bells and whistles that Discord has. Avatars, in-line images and videos, streaming rooms, etc…
matrix?
Is matrix not a separate protocol?
How is it different from discord?
way different, it's open source
- Doesn't track you like discord does to remain "free"
- You audit the code for security and privacy issues
- You can self-host or fork the code for yourself if you ever need to build a backup because some idiot decided to purchase the original revolt project and decided to screw with it
- It has an open source license so the software can never be privatized, it's essentially a public utility; for everyone by everyone
Our Story:
The Revolt project originally started back in 2019 by a group of three students from the United Kingdom and the Czech Republic, looking for an alternative to the already emerging, closed-source chat platforms. Our main focus for the project was to create an open-source, completely compromise-free platform that offered all of the same features and competed against other chat apps
- Revolt is made with collaborative effort, and if you like coding it makes it so if you can to try and code stuff to add custom functionality or plugins or whatever else. Like a public utility you can add to it and develop it communally, though in this case it would be a public utility serving a public with a population of just you. But because of the GPL license Revolt uses, it makes it so that you need to share your changes. Whatever form the source code takes, it remains a public utility until perpetuity.
I'd like to know, too. Especially considering most servers I'm on are unlikely to switch.
They only thing missing is voice for gaming.
yet another other miserable attempt at doing IRC
It has been a long time since I used IRC, but or it has changed a lot or it's not similar.
Could you send inline images? Could you assign granular permission and roles ? Can have several rooms with access and visibility control of each of them? Can you make audio rooms? Can you react to mensages?
Right. Discord, Revolt, Guilded etc. are heavily inspired by IRC but they modernized it by adding more features. Right now they are so much more than IRC.
I've never had the need for any of those things. A text-only chat is a cleaner and better chat. Specially reactions, those are rather absurd and irritating.
Audio is definitely a different use case, and Mumble works great for that. You can just host both on the same domain and be done with it. You could even write a client that supports both IRC and Mumble if you wanted to, instead of constantly reinventing the wheel.
And I'm sure you could implement in-line images in IRC if you wanted, after all Twitch's chat is IRC and they have images.
Remember: Revolt =\ Revolut
Revolt was okay when I briefly used it, however I don't like the developers
Are you maybe confusing it with? https://www.revolut.com/en-US/
Never heard of it
What communities are there on Revolt? Anything big? Like GrapheneOS, Linux Mint, Signal, Monero?
I know that Matrix has their communities.
I tried self hosting my own using their docker compose file. The text chat works just fine and is lovely but the voice part was totally broken for me. To be fair it explicitly says in the settings page they're rewriting the entire voice subsystem so I'll try again in the future
How can I search for Revolt communities?
there probably is a list on the revolt discord 😵💫
Revolut is a different thing
I've heard they like to ban people for disagreeing with them or being christian. So no, I'll just stay away.
Also it seems pretty centralized so there is no reason they couldn't start do something questionable
Really? That sounds fucked up but I don't trust hearsay so easily.
Nah I think I prefer Matrix. The Revolt servers have that same unproductive samesy flair as discord.
Femboy server uwu cutesy safe (but slightly horny) space. Trans programmer server yay!!It's all junk. Matrix has less, but the servers I'm in are trying to do something new. They're trying to fight the patterns and habits and create something more mindful, safe, and engaging.