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Killings in the U.S. are dropping at a historic rate. Will anyone notice?

www.latimes.com Killings in the U.S. are dropping at a historic rate. Will anyone notice?

Homicides went up in 2020 and 2021 and are now rapidly coming back down. Violent crime nationwide hasn't increased. But the perception of a crime wave still colors U.S. politics.

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Of course no one will notice, because it's beneficial to certain groups to keep pushing the idea that there's a rampant crime wave and we're in more danger than ever.
- NY really wants to pass that law to force background checks for 3d printer purchases.
  
  Unless they do the same for lathes, mills, drills, and pressure piping, seems almost like it's a pointless fucking law designed to have a certain look with no factual basis...
  Fuck, I could teach someone how to build their own 3d printer from a mix of cheap ebay parts and off the shelf hardware store shit.
  Next they'll make it illegal to have technical documentation on the schematics and models for things arbitrarily deemed "dangerous".
  Oh wait....
- What's crazy is that its both sides of the isle doing this. The far right does it to stoke fear and over-promote guns as the only means of protection, and the far left does it to villainize guns as the root of all violence. It's exhausting.
  
  Which current politicians are "far left"? But more importantly, what Democrat politicians are fear mongering about rampant crime?
  
  I don't follow any right-wing media, but yeah, on the left...
  "There's a mass shooting every day!!!"
  https://imgur.com/a/h6DvNwE
  LOL, and you might notice the numbers from Mother Jones. Those right-wing fascists! 😆
  Being a lefty shooter, I got opinions, and I see a lot from both sides. Vehicular and gun deaths are on par, year after year. And I can avoid suicide (43% I think?) and I can stay away from bad people and places. I don't have those options on the road.
- US homicide rates in 2020 were still not good... You're rapidly heading back down to that level. Which is a good negative trend. But it's still high. Really high.
  
  Even that 2020 peak is substantially lower than it was in the 80s and 90s, though.

I noticed all these people alive around me the other day. I'm not sure how I feel about it.

This is so sad to see and I hope the United States gets its mojo back as a murder capital of the universe.
This is probably the liberals fault. Everyone should be murdering everyone else that's the American way.
- Don't worry I have arrived

Zombie attacks are at an all time low. But the perception of zombie attacks remains high!
Dara O'Briain
- I read that in his voice. The man has a way with words.

Has crime actually gone down, or have homicide rates gone down? Malcolm Gladwell did a great series on his podcast recently that points out that when trauma centers save more lives of GSW victims, the homicide rates go down simply because not as many people die -even though there are just as many bullets hitting humans.
- Yes I loved that series as well! I’ve mentioned it before though and Reddit seems to think Gladwell is a scam artist for some reason? He’s just a writer ffs.
- Violent crimes have gone down.

Not if the news media has anything to say about it! More at 11.

Probably not since crimes of desperation are on the fall, leaving the really gruesome heinous shit for "if it bleeds it leads" publishers to jump all over.
You might notice coverage of political violence and hate crimes have been on the rise, this ain't because of a journalistic inclination to cover the problems of society, it's because violent crime has fallen enough that hate crimes and political violence are a sizeable chunk of what's left to report on for red journalists.

Malcolm Gladwell talks on his podcast about how U.S. hospitals have made huge strides in preventing gun-related deaths in recent years (except in minority cases where hospitals are too far). We also have very little data on non-death gun-related injuries, making it impossible to say whether crime rates are improving when it comes to guns. The last two episodes in the series explain the crime perception pretty well.
In fact, this post alludes the fact that the number of assaults in the US has been on an increase since 2013. https://www.statista.com/statistics/191231/reported-aggravated-assault-rate-in-the-us-since-1990/
- U.S. hospitals have made huge strides in preventing gun-related deaths in recent years
  We talking treatment or prevention? The former I assume?
  
  Treatment, which prevents deaths. The number of actual shootings hasn't gone down, only the number of people dying from shootings.

Who is gathering the data and how? Does homicide by crushing financial burden leading to medical crisis count?

Yes the cops, and they are doing their part to pump thise number back up.

Good for America.

Almost like the post covid recovery has kicked in but thats not a benificial perpsective we need to hand over our entire private lives so they can prevwnt such crime

3d printers aren't magic. If you can 3d print it 9/10 you could carve it out of wood. Going to ban carving knifes?
- I ins steal in my eggs for by slots elf i do
  right??

Welcome back in the civilized World

Homicides went up in WA state. Interesting, I thought they had the strongest gun control measures in the nation.
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  Jesus fucking Christ you people reach, don't you? Fuck me, guess the number 88 is now illegal.
  OR, you could simply check OPs post history. See if there's some bullshit in there.
  OR, and this is really gonna bake your noodle, you could answer the question or simply STFU.
- I'd guess CA for strictest, for sure the most useless. "You can't have a grip on your rifle. It must have a ludicrous 'fin'. It's safer."
  Washington: "You can't have 'high capacity' magazines you killers!"
  Yeah, but you're banning standard mags, what the gun was engineered to use. And swapping one is a 2-4 second chore, trivial. Only idiots buy high-capacity mags because they jam nonstop. (Which put a HUGE dent in the Aurora shooter's evening.) I'm all in on letting morons have jammy magazines.
  "Weapons of WAR!"
  So how come the military doesn't use high-capacity mags?
  "Shut up shut up shut up! You just want more dead children!"
  I'm just sayin', you're burning political capital on a non-issue. How about we fight for something like safe storage and the like? Or maybe teach children gun safety so they recognize they're not toys and, at worst, are able to identify when someone's being an idiot?
  "NOOO! Prohibition works!"
  Like with alcohol, abortion and drugs?
  🤬
  Anyhow, that's how most of the conversation go amongst my liberal brethren. (The last part is where the inform me that I'm not really a liberal. I'll let someone else fill that bit in.)
  
  I highly recommend everyone listen to Malcolm Gladwell's series he recently did on guns on the Revisionist History podcast. It lays out these points in crystal clarity.
  
  Holy shit. You and I must be living the same life because it has literally been the same experience.
  Its exhausting to a point.

No because where I live homicide is up from last year and one still happens almost every day
- My experience is more important than reality
  
  "The world ends at my horizons and so does my empathy!"
- There’s literally a section in this article titled “Anecdotes shape perception.” In the event you were being serious, try reading the article, since it specifically addresses your point.

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