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The revolution that feeds the children gets my support

Whatever flaws modern China may have, nothing will ever diminish how historic of an achievement this is. What China managed to do in going from 1949 to what it is today is nothing short of a miracle.

I'm making this post because quite frankly, at this point, i just don't care anymore for the constant nitpicking and purity testing that i have to constantly read and hear from western leftists.

I just want this for the entire global south. If it means that a people who have suffered so much in their history get to finally live like human beings with dignity, happiness and prosperity, i don't give a fuck that they aren't "doing socialism right".

Call them nationalists, call them revisionists, call them liberals, call them whatever names you like, fact is one and a half billion people are now living in a modern, developed, stable, peaceful and increasingly prosperous society.

Long live the Communist Party of China and long live the People's Republic!

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The thing I wish people understood is ALL countries have flaws. China has a proven track record of improving on them, step by step, year by year, plan by plan. The western world does not. That is the difference. I have faith that China will continue to solve its problems because it has a track record of doing so.
- There is no such thing as a utopia. But it is possible to make progress in the right direction. China is heading in the right direction. The West is heading in the opposite direction.
I just don’t get how you can read the theory and then disparage China. These ultras and “Maoist” types are guilty of the same sort of idealistic crap that liberals and fascists build their worldviews on in my opinion, even if they are well meaning.
China isn’t perfect, but unlike so many other nations and political movements around the world, they know they aren’t perfect and are always improving.
Marxism-Leninism isn’t snap your fingers and make communism. It’s material analysis done by proletarian dictatorship.
$2.15 (USD in 2022) a day is a manmade invention. One person providing for themself, in a localized economic context, would easily have labor that would be assessed above $755 a year. For the same work, the ability of one worker to get the same wages per week as a worker across the world gets in a year is only possible under the globalized capitalist market.
You can't look at a wage below $3 an hour without thinking "either the boss is really bad at business or the boss is ripping off employees".
- Yes, if workers were compensated in full for the value they produce there would be no poverty.
  However, exploitation is bigger than just the employer-employee relationship. It also exists on a global level between countries. Entire nations are suffering from poverty because they are being collectively exploited as a country by imperialism and neo-colonialism. It's not just bosses ripping them off, it's the whole Western-led international capitalist system. That is why taking back your sovereignty is key to even being able to start to tackle the economic problems. We can see this happening in real time in Burkina Faso today.
  
  Yep. Boss, shareholder, beneficiary of enterprise. I should have made that clearer.
i don't think $2.15 line is that imp because its so low, many countries get trapped between 'extreme' poverty line and poverty (high relative poverty due to inequality). China is one of the few countries which actually got out of this trap somewhat.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/share-living-with-less-than-10-int--per-day?tab=line&time=1991..latest&country=CHN%7EWorld+%28excluding+China%29
- It's even worse because if you remove China from the World line, world poverty is actually going up...
  
  You see when China does something good, it’s because of capitalism but when they do something bad, it’s communism
- The first step to tackling the issue of poverty is eliminating extreme poverty. This may not sound like much but when you had an overwhelming majority of the population living in extreme poverty just two generations ago, this is already an impressive achievement. I am aware that there is still plenty of room for improvement beyond this, even in China, but there are also plenty of countries that have not overcome this hurdle yet. That should be priority number one for any government.

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