Cool to see happen. My mom and my brother in law use Android and I haven’t been able to convince either to just use Signal to message me. This will prove to be a better bridge.
It’s odd watching this from Europe, where cross platform third party messaging platforms are ubiquitous. Nobody seems to care about blue or green bubbles because they are all using WhatsApp, Telegram, Facebook Messenger or one of the many others.
Reminds of the days of old instant messaging, where different regions, or social groups even, would favour MSN Messenger, Yahoo, ICQ, AOL Messenger etc.
Europe has had the benefit of not having Apple building walls through the smartphone market as much as they have here. Americans flocked to them and elected them the trend setters, and Apple's design philosophy is as aggressively closed as it can possibly be. So we have an entire generation now raised with Apple devices in hand that balk at the idea of using anything else, meanwhile Apple keeps competitors locked out of the ecosystem.
Apple has trained far too many Americans to never, ever think beyond the defaults; downloading another app to talk to people is verboten.
Europe has had a properly competitive smartphone market where all the major players are using the same open system, so none of them are setting trends that the others can't follow.
Later next year, we will be adding support for RCS Universal Profile, the standard as currently published by the GSM Association.
If Google’s & Samsungs implementations aren't compliant with the GSM associations’ standard then I don’t think this is going to work how people are expecting it to. The stuff Google has added to RCS messaging has all been their own implementation of it and not part of the standard, and as far as I’m aware android RCS gets routed through Google’s servers.
I wonder if RCS support is Apple trying to appease the EU with the DMA stuff forcing messaging apps to be interoperable with each other.
This is what I was hoping for. Something that an Android using friend of mine doesn’t grasp is that Apple adopting RCS with E2EE encryption as it’s implemented at the moment makes them beholden to Google. Google’s putting on a song and dance pretending to be the good guy in this situation but if that were true they would have developed E2EE in a way that was a part of the RCS standard instead of proprietary. In a weird turn of events; Apple committing to improving encryption for the RCS standard has turned this into a really good thing for everyone.
I never would have put this situation on my bingo card after years of Apple’s “Blue bubble vs green bubble” crap.
All major carriers use Google Jibe as their RCS backend which is the universal profile with a ton of proprietary Google bullshit, and routing all message traffic through Google servers.
I don’t think google is doing anything particularly nonstandard, they basically wrote the standard. RCS requires a server for the device to talk through, and google has been the main server most devices use. Some mobile carriers hosted their own but found it wasn’t worth the effort since google would do it for them, and the encryption is such that carriers didn’t have much to monetize.
Even if google was doing something nonstandard, the amount of begging they’ve put in to get Apple to support RCS means I’m sure they will do everything on their part to ensure interoperability on their end.
RCS does not support end-to-end encryption, only Google's proprietary extension does. Google has been simultaneously promoting RCS as a "standard" while prominently advertising a non-standard feature.
This is the double edged sword of Apple supporting standards sometimes. They stick to the spec in many cases, and then people bitch about nonstandard or poorly implemented things not being compatible.
Does this mean the Nothing Phone's feature is basically irrelevant now? If so that's an option I hadn't considered yet after watching the MKBHD video earlier this week.
Not necessarily, it depends what features from imessage you want, replies, editing texts etc aren't AFAIK currently available on RCS, hell e2e encryption isn't currently available with the Open Standard