Videos show Israeli soldiers in Gaza burning food, vandalizing a shop and ransacking private homes | CNN
Videos show Israeli soldiers in Gaza burning food, vandalizing a shop and ransacking private homes | CNN
And the USA funds the genocide
And acts as the good guys to boot.
I wonder, is there any nation or entity the US doesn't fund?
Can't get played when you play all sides.
I always love how two nations genocide each other and every English speaking forum ends up with 'How dare the USA' lol.
It's like people who can do nothing but blame the parents on their child going onto murder everyone when sometimes your child is just shit lol. You absolve so much of their personal responsibility by blaming the son for fathers behavior.
People really just don't like the fact that people can and will do evil shit without much justification simply by the way their genetics and culture work.
Wouldn't genocide be an effort to kill all Palestinans everywhere, like the millions in other Arab states?
You know, instead of focusing on the elected government of Gaza (who still has 57%+ support amongst Gazan civilians), who targeted 1200+ civilians intentionally in one of the worst terroist attacks of recent memory?
Definition Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide
Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
in whole or in part. Not that you care, just for anybody wondering what the Geneva convention says. Though people should not base their morality on law, even UN law.
In case anyone is on the fence about this issue and doesn't realize this is easily disproven misinformation, there hasn't been an election for the president or legislature in Palestine since 2006.. Hamas has maintained a stranglehold on the region for seventeen years by discontinuing elections.
Even if that was true, this is a bad faith argument anyhow: it's entirely possible to focus on the atrocities being committed by both sides. Rivermonster simply seems to enjoy regurgitating Israeli propaganda.
There were tunnels under that food
If so, hopefully, they're flooded with seawater now and filled with dead Hamas.
I cannot help but think of nazi Germany when I read this. It's very similar
They gotta learn that somewhere...
Retired IDF General Israel Ziv told CNN he had seen the videos and was so disturbed by them that he reached out to IDF commanders in charge of the soldiers involved.
“I was (told) that the brigade commander will punish the ones who did that once they stop fighting,” he told CNN.
In its statement to CNN, the IDF said that “disciplinary measures will be taken regarding the soldiers involved.”
In other words, they're only interested in punishing the ones that get caught, and they'll only process it well after it's happened so they can just deliver a slap on the wrist.
In other words, they’re only interested in punishing the ones that get caught, and they’ll only process it well after it’s happened so they can just deliver a slap on the wrist.
By definition, you can only punish the ones that get caught.
Actually the Israelis are very strong supporters of collective punishment, given their stance on Palestinians I would have thought they would execute the families of entire platoons.
Has anyone else noticed how prolific rivermonster is in this thread? And how their comments are full of half-truths that always favor Israeli policy? Weird, isn't it?
I can't figure out if they spread propaganda and disinformation professionally or if they just have a hard on for Jewish ethnostates or Muslim genocide.
Watching their mental gymnastics as they try to justify Israeli's actions in Palestine while decrying Hamas's similar behavior is always good for a laugh. Plus how they accuse anyone critical of Zionism to be a Nazi or anti-semite. They're kinda the worst type of person.
Spamming the comment section with pro israeli comments or even just muddying the waters. I've seen it with a few posters, including rivermonster. It distracts those reading from the real issue being discussed, usually israeli crimes against humanity.
Well, from his comment history he is single minded at best.
generally, they also have problems with the concept of "before / after" or literally say they ignore anything that disagrees with their statement
Just block 'em and move on 🤷♂
Someone posting a lot of comments in a thread doesn't necessarily mean much, beyond them engaging with the thread and replying to multiple comments as they scroll through. That isn't to deny their bias, just to point out that their presence and bias doesn't necessarily point to some kind of organised action.
Edit: ok I didn't have to (nor think I would have to) scroll far down to see that they are clearly a troll. The whole "it's important to counter false narratives", while clearly delivering a biased narrative, pretty clearly shows they're not an honest actor.
Fuck this shit.
The most moral army of the only democracy in the Middle East! If you disagree, you’re homophobic since some of these soldiers are gay
Eh?
Right?
Tragic how the abused has become the abuser.
This is not tragic. This is, has been, and will always be Israeli foreign policy. Ever since the state was created, they were supposed to be a "foothold of civilization in the region". They have constantly settled outside of borders and into Palestinian territory, and then defended their settlements with their superior firepower. They have constantly waged this type of unorthodox war. They supported Hamas as a tactical strike against the more moderate candidates in Palestine, because you can't paint moderates as the aggressor as easily - this worked wonders for their PR - they managed to clean their image, because they had an enemy that looked even worse.
Make no mistake friend - Israel has never been the abused, and throughout their short lifetime as a state they have only abused. They have been conducting an ethnic cleansing in the area. The only hope Palestinians have is that history books write the truth, but seeing as how Israel's money isn't running out and their reach is long, even this seems unlikely - just look at all the support they still have despite their foreign policy being literally genocide.
Israel has never been the abuser, and throughout their short lifetime as a state they have only abused.
I believe you need to edit that... Not in the context of you being "wrong/right" or anything opinion based like that, just that its contradictional... I don't think it's what you meant to actually say is all :)
In addition the founders of Israel broke the international Anti-Nazi boycott to build their right wing ethnostate. This is who they have always been. Their support of the Nazis directly contributed to the holocaust.
Yes, ever since being created, the Muslim world has attacked over multiple wars with multiple arab states coordinating. And fortunately they have lost over and over.
Since the creation of Israel, the Muslim Arab world has stolen the land of 800,000+ jews who lived all over the Arab states. Though you'd never know it reading comments here bc worldnews only feigns outrage at Jews, not on land theft as a principal.
Meh, never mind, I'm already tired of debunking this silly propaganda virtua-nazi rant. You know your lies.
Looks like they took “never forget” a bit too far
Israel's army is apparently much closer to Russia's than the US'. This is disgusting and pathetic.
Israel itself is culturally very similar to Russia. Living in Russia, I've always been amused how their public picture is so different in everything.
USA army rape
All armies rape
No one's saying the US military are a bunch of faultless angels. But there's a certain line of morality they are expected to keep, and conduct like that is illegal. They're expected to disobey unlawful orders, and shit like this is unlawful.
Shit goes on at army bases and you'll hear about soldiers being shitty off and on base, but you never see the US military devolving into petty thugs like this in active combat.
Typically we save that for the police back home. And I wish I were being sarcastic.
Both Russia and the elected government of Gaza (Hamas) target civilians intentionally. Hamas even targets Gaza hospitals. Probably thought false flagging Israel would be great PR, and it did work well on the worldnews crew.
I'd say Gazas elected government, and Russia are much closer.
Demographic from Wikipedia:
0–14 years: 44.1% 15–24 years: 21.3% 25–54 years: 28.5% 55–64 years: 3.5% 65 years and over: 2.6%
something like 75% of all Gazans were either not born or not of voting age when the last elections were held 16 years ago.
Goddamned time traveling Palestinians!
Anyone harping on how Hamas is the "elected" government when they haven't had elections in, what, 16 years, is just simping for Netanyahu's genocide. I see you felt the need to say "elected" twice just to be really obvious about it.
and the IDF targets civilians even when they aren't "at war", your point being?
Israel targets civilians. The vast majority of buildings targeted by Israel since 7 Oct have been "power targets", which, by their own definition, are targets that do not have significant military value but have value in that they can destablise civilian life such that the civilians might put pressure on the government to change.
Israel are literally using violence against civilians to achieve a political goal. That is the very definition of terrorism.
No one can argue that the events of 7 October were not terrorism. Roughly 2,000 people invaded Israel to commit terrorist acts. In response, Israel have committed their own form of terrorism and killed 20,000 people, very few of which were actually members of Hamas.
Your argument is a near perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black.
Oh, please tell me what you think of IDF killing their own:
An initial IDF probe into the hostage killing incident suggests all three men were shirtless, with one carrying a makeshift white flag.
On seeing them, one Israeli soldier shouted “terrorists!” to the other forces, initiating fire at the men, according to reports.
While two hostages were hit immediately and fell to the ground, the third managed to escape into a nearby building where despite pleas in Hebrew, he was also shot and killed, a military official said.
Nazi subhuman trash (the IDF)
Don't dehumanize people ever, please. War crimes need to be pointed out and punished, but neither nazi nor subhuman is a reasonable accusation.
Fucking CNN blocks firefox? wtf
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No issue for me, sounds like you've got some settings they don't like, rather than explicitly blocking Firefox.
However I've had worse websites that just simply don't work in Firefox at all. I mean, they do load, but there's no ability to scroll, thus you cannot see the bulk of the content. An example: https://idno.vattenfall.co.uk/
Works fine for me. Firefox, Android, and within the EU.
Works fine for me even with adblocking & tracker bloacking.
worked for me, FireFox Ublock, ABP, and no-script
It opens fine for me on Android
Try replacing "edition" with "lite" in the URL
Where are the videos?
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Thank you!
Dehumanising the enemy has always been a feature of war and long-driven conflicts like this. Soldiers everywhere are taught to believe the enemy are pests and lesser than them.
It's pretty bad - glad they will be disciplined.
I doubt it. Stuff like this is coming out every few days right now. They either shit the bed on teaching their soldiers not to commit war crimes or they just don't care. They literally bulldozed Palestinian houses in West Bank this last week and the week before that they lit up a group of journalists with no excuse to be misidentified.
Like how they disciplined the guy that murdered Shireen Abu Akleh? They'll investigate themselves and find no wrongdoing. There's a reason the IDF trains US cops.
Well given how the Hamas would cheer them on if the situations were reversed its at least a differentiation and a step in the right direction.
they will get disciplined... with a cool medal, similar, but slightly different from the one given for murdering children in the west bank.
So uh… Israel… I’m pretty sure “never forget” doesn’t mean “we should practice it so we don’t forget how to conduct an efficient genocide”
Nonono.... It's "never forget what happened to the Jews".
...and use that as a strategy guide to oppress others?