Climate Is Now a US Culture War Issue
Climate Is Now a US Culture War Issue
And it couldn’t have happened at a worse time.
Now? Now?
I grew up with evangelicals who were enraged at the blasphemous insult that God did not control the Earth absolutely, and therefore the earth couldn't be getting hotter unless God decided it was time for judgement day, in which case, celebrate, because those jews are finally getting what's coming to them.
This sounds like mental illness to normal people...
Did you ever ask them about nuclear bombs and we could wipe out all life except cockroaches several times over and make the earth uninhabitable for 10000 years or did this not count?
Yeah, what's this "now" bullshit?
I came here to comment this. It's always been a culture war, beyond religious views, it's never been popular with the majority to say that our largest industries and companies are willfully ignoring and hiding the truth about what is in humanity's best interests in order to achieve growth.
I don't get this line of reason I ng, cause wasn't earth given to the humans by God to be the caretakers of the planet? If so, were doing a pretty shitty job of it.
Evangelicals rewrite the Bible in places where convenient.
God didn't give the earth to humans for caretaking, he gave it to us, and no man can undo what God hath wrought, so even if it is ruined somehow, God will rapture the faithful to a new realm leaving the damned to burn on earth for eternity as the new purgatory/hell.
Its muddled, but the point is it means evangelicals win no matter what, so don't worry about it.
Exactly. And you don't need to go that far into the Bible to see that, just look at Genesis 2:15, 19-20:
15 And the Lord God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
19 And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field
That sounds to me like God is handing things over to Adam, and by extension people.
And then you have the parables of the talents (Matthew 25:14-30) and the vineyard owner (Matthew 21:33-46) in the New Testament (among others) that are all about stewardship.
So my question for people who use this argument is, would God be happy if He came to visit today? How would He feel about how we've treated the Earth He made?
This goes for any religion with a creation story.
I'm pretty sure it is mental illness....
We're not allowed to say that, or they might lose control and get violent because you incited them.
Now? Now as in the last 50+ years?
It wasn't fully polarized by party until around 2009, when the fossil fuels industry decided to buy off the Repiblicans in response to an attempt to pass cap and trade legislation.
alway has been
No it's a capitalist issue. The biggest problem by far is corporations. Anything distracting from that fact is propaganda as far as I'm concerned.
Slow news day?
FYI The Sky is now blue.
I get the impression most people in US don't realize how severe the impact of the climate breakdown is going to be for them personally. A river in Colorado that around 40 million people rely on is drying up while California is running out of fresh water as well. Heatwaves resulted in massive crop loss in 2021, in 2022 farmers were killing their own crops and selling cows because of extreme drought , and this year farmers are set to abandon wheat crops at highest rate since 1917.
A paper from 2009 predicted that nonlinear temperature effects indicate severe damages to US crop yields under climate change, and we're now seeing this unfold in practice. US could easily end up in a dust bowl type scenario in the near future where food production collapses and a famine starts.
Then there are megafires, hurricanes, and other extreme weather events like the recent Texas cold snap. All of this is putting stress on the failing infrastructure and straining supply chains to the breaking point. At some point there could be an internal refugee crisis within US as parts of the country become unlivable.
All of this is happening today, this aren't things that might happen in the future, these are existing crises that are becoming more severe every year while majority of the population doesn't understand the larger implications of what's happening.
If it was just the conservatives who suffered from this I would be 100% "let them die". Unfortunately the rest of us are stuck dealing with a global problem.
I still kind of think we should treat conservatives as the existential threat they are. Stop acting like it's "just a different opinion" and start taking action.
While conservatives outright reject that the climate crisis is happening, liberals tend to acknowledge it and simply pay lip service without putting any serious effort into dealing with the problem. US has made no meaningful progress in transitioning off fossil fuels so far, and continues to subsidize and expand fossil fuel projects under the democrats. There is no serious plan that's being implemented, and projects that do exist often amount to greenwashing.
We can see what a serious plan looks like by looking at China where majority of renewables are now produced and capacity is growing at an accelerating rate each year. China is also leading in nuclear power and building 150 new reactors now.
Shocking, US in another war
Literally always has been...
Now? Ad nauseum.
I think we might be doomed.
If it's a culture issue, then let's frame it as "capitalist culture vs save the planet culture."
Gonna spam this in 3 different places?
this is an opinion piece.
The New York times exist to put a blue face on the failure of Capitalism. If you think the solution to climate change exist within our political parties, or via voting, the problem is you.
Also Citing Paul Krugman, the manifestation of neo-liberal talking points, and the failure of third-way politics reflects really badly on you OP.
Wow, Paul Krugman is still employed? Terrific. Hmm, let’s see. The Climate change agenda is an "issue" because it reeks badly of ulterior motives. Like, control the 'little people" and burden them with obnoxious regulations, rules and whatever else while the wealthy just go on doing as they please. As soon as this gets brought up, the celebs and politicians scatter like ants being sprayed with raid. They fly around in jets, we can’t fly or have to fly like 5th class. No gas powered cars for us but they can have Ferrari collections. We have to live in stacked, crappy apartments while they party it up in their gated mansions. Sorry, not happening. As soon as they hand it all over in the name of climate we can talk. Mm Kay? Good.
Trust the science. Sure, Jan. Why not parade Fauci out there again? LOL.
This reads like an AI generated post trained on everyone's terrible uncles.
🤔 I wonder how many Lemmy accounts actually are just AI-generated bots?