Biden address in Charleston South Carolina church interrupted by protestors calling for ceasefire
Protesters calling for a cease-fire in Gaza interrupted President Biden’s speech in South Carolina on Monday, the latest example of divisions among Democrats over the fighting in the Middle East. B…
Dismally looking forward to when they don’t vote for Biden and then Trump’s back in office and he gives Netanyahu the green light to kill as many as he wants
Well what are they suppose to do? Kiss his ass because he's not as bad as Trump? I don't see the issue with pointing out the hypocrisy of supplying weapons to a genocide while calling for peace at the location of a mass shooting.
Kiss his ass? No.
Vote for him because he's the alternative to a waking nightmare for a large part of my fellow Americans? Yes
Do I wish the system was better? Yes. And to that point I'm voting for the guy who still believes in government and rule of law. If I ever want the system to change, I need to vote for the party that is interested in governance.
If they vote for Trump they're a garbage human. If they abstain, they're a coward hiding behind "muh principles" while our neighbors have their rights stripped away.
Edit: fucking tankies lol
Absolutely, therefore they should shut the fuck up and not pressure the sitting President about his support of an ongoing genocidal terror campaign. Smh voters getting uppity, don't they know it's an election year
It's important that Biden doesn't even FEEL like this will affect his chances.
He must look at the current polls and go "looks like we can keep this genocide going for another 4 years, it's pretty popular".
Get back in line and bow to your god emperor Genocide Joe!
Populists don't roll with this logic. Any blemish on the part of someone they vote for, they consider their own. You can't reconcile harm reduction with this mindset, because you have to hate anyone who isn't 100% in alignment with your ideology. So, you get the rightist populists tossing McCarthy out for keeping the gov open, and the leftist populists willing to let the country burn because Biden can't unilaterally control Netanyahu's gov or abandon one of the few Western footprints in the middle east. And they never consider the consequences for doing nothing theirs to own. Inaction is bowing out for populists, while you recognize it as what it is, a choice of its own with consequences. Even once the consequences are upon us, they'll just blame Biden, the DNC, whatever. Responsibility and owning your choices is anathema to populism.
Libertarians and (uncompromising) progressives are two sides of the same coin, and easily manipulated into voting against their best interest. Even if a real candidate is far more aligned with their interests than the other, all it takes is one wedge issue to get them to effectively not vote.
Zero capability of prioritizingfor for the best plausible outcome.
And lemmy is full of these idealistic fools.
Biden can denounce the genocide of Palestine at any time. Instead he has been bypassing congress to fast track more weapons to Israel. At this point, the only difference between Biden's response and a theoretical Trump response is that Trump would probably try to get some boots on the ground.
If threatening to elect Trump is what it takes for Biden to stop sending U.S ammunition directly into the heads of Palestinian children, then the ends will have justified the means.
It's not just okay to vote for someone and then yell at them, it's vital to a functioning democracy to vote for the person whose values most closely reflect your own, and then to yell at them in an effort to force their values closer to yours.
I suspect this is the actual goal.
They're both fascists. The issue is the whole undemocratic American voting system.
I'm not gonna vote for Mussolini just because I think he's better than Hitler.
We need anti government protests on a massive scale. No amount of voting will ever "fix" this country.
Anti-government protests on a massive scale don't just happen. They are organized. They are backed by mutual aid networks. It's easy to sit back and say "I'm not voting for either option because this whole system is bad," but have you done literally any work at all to make the system less bad? Or to build up real alternatives? If the entire American voting system is undemocratic, what have you done in your local community to make your community's voice heard outside of that system?
I see so many people who are terminally online say they don't want to participate in a broken system, and exactly zero of them do any work outside of (not) voting to fix the problems they see in their community. If you're not gonna do the bare minimum and vote every four years for the least bad option, you better be doing literally any other real-world political work. Otherwise you're just as complicit in the system you have such an issue with.
Tldr: the revolution is not right around the corner; you will not be saved. Do some actual political legwork instead of sitting on your ass complaining the whole time. Complaining is easy. Fixing is hard.
If this surprises you, or even gets you that upset in this day and age, you haven't been paying attention.
I'll be voting for Biden, and it makes me sick that this is what hope now looks like, a desperate plea to delay fascism for another 4 years.
Either way we prolong a dying capitalist empire to avoid and further delay the inevitable revolution that will likely kill most of us and the ones we love in the transition towards a change that is likely to result in the same shit repeating itself a couple centuries later.
Notice that the preservation of decorum, respectability, and sacred institution is prioritized over human life.
If Biden can't handle backlash for his own actions, how is he the guy to save democracy. Just because you're fine with co-signing genocide doesn't mean everyone else is. People have gone down the lesser evil path for so long, it is two old genocidal men for the only two choices.
Watching the attendees reaction chanting "Four More Years" to the calls for a cease fire makes you realize how it is cults on both sides . They really didn't look any different to MAGA cultist at that moment.
Um... they were literally in a church. What did you think they were?
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Protesters calling for a cease-fire in Gaza interrupted President Biden’s speech in South Carolina on Monday, the latest example of divisions among Democrats over the fighting in the Middle East.
Biden was speaking in Charleston at Mother Emanuel Church, where a white supremacist gunman killed nine worshippers in 2015.
As Biden restarted his prepared remarks, a supporter from the pews of the church shouted out to praise the president.
Biden has encountered protests during nearly every trip he has made in recent months as his administration backs Israel in its response to Hamas’s Oct. 7 terrorist attacks that killed more than 1,000 Israelis.
The president has faced increasing pressure from the left to call for a cease-fire in Gaza, as Israeli strikes and shelling has killed thousands of Palestinians there.
Instead, Biden and other White House officials have urged Israel to minimize the impacts of their operation on civilians and have in recent weeks encouraged Israeli leaders to move their military campaign to a more targeted phase.
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