A real catch-22. If you can complete it, rejected. If you don't complete it, rejected.
I remember taking a short test that the psychiatrist who diagnosed me used as a small part of her assessment. She kept asking every minute or two if I was done, which I would later come to realize was just part of the test. Probably fifteen minutes later, once I was done writing half a page of answers in the unusually tiny spaces between lines, I handed it back to her. She took one look at it, gave it back to me, and pointed at the instructions at the top of the page which basically said to just circle the right answer, something that wasn't at all clear from context alone unless you actually read the instructions first. It wasn't multiple choice but all I had to do was circle a word in each sentence which wouldn't have taken me much more than about thirty seconds. That was apparently the real test, not the actual questions, and so I failed (or passed?) miserably.
Hey Bob, another ADHD claim came in.
Bob: send them the extra long questionnaire, they’ll never finish!
Intentionally tone deaf system strikes again.
Is the cheapest way of helping people!
“We tried”
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Stupid. Why do they even have such a shitty policy? What benefit would it have? Bully people into coming in?
Also don't forget your mandatory call to the doc each month for every refill
and don't forget to call a day early when it lands on a weekend
and don't forget to setup the mandatory appointment every 6 months
and don't forget to actually go to the appointment
and don't forget to schedule a drug test once every whatever-amount-of-time it is for your state
and don't forget to not eat or drink or take the medication the morning of the drug testCause if you forget just 1 of those they'll obviously have no choice but to deny you the medication you've been taking every day for 10 years. But you understand because punishing disabled people for mistakes/crimes of able-minded people (who don't find those things challeging), is clearly the only option they have.
What's up with the drug test part?
In certain states in the US they require a drug test to make sure you are infact taking the medication yourself. Its almost like a reverse drug test; you get in trouble if you're not taking drugs.
So I guess also don't forget and/or try to get off the medication otherwise you'll fail the drug test and also loose access.
They're primarily checking for proof that you're taking the medication.
- If levels are too low: they assume you're not using it, and if you're not using it you must be selling it.
- Levels too high: you're abusing it.
- Levels of something else (usually alcohol or cannabis): you're a junkie.
All three can get your prescription revoked, and the testing requirements change based on the weather and what your doctor had for breakfast last Tuesday.
I get drug tested every 3 months when I need my refills, which are mandatory.
As somebody on disability for psychological disability reasons, you're usually allowed to have somebody else fill those out for you. That's what I had to do.
Luckily the ones they send you afterwards every few years to check if you're still disabled are much shorter, and if you've got a detailed medical record of your disability sometimes they can't shut it off no matter how you answer the questions, such as in my case. Even if I wrote "I'm cured. You can turn off my disability now," they can't do that because they have guidelines that make you auto-qualify, and if your medical records still show that you meet those guidelines they can't legally shut it off.
Generally speaking, one term used for this kind of arrangement is “patient advocate”.
Try googling that to see if services are available. I once had a woman from my church offer to advocate for me when I got kicked out of MassHealth by the random fluctuations of bureaucratic bullshit. I was in total crisis and she just came to my appointments with me, in a good state of mind, and helped me get back into the system.
I used chatgpt to answer the questions and then got lazy to copy and paste it and mail it out. So.... Yay?
I had ChatGPT make a step by step plan for addressing the mold issue in my apartment. It was a life saver.
I actually get SSI and a large part of my diagnosis is ADHD. I had a caseworker bring me in to the office and do that part in person. I was never able to coherently do doctor visits, but I am very not bound by human norms. So I faxed the SSA office repeatedly and eventually had typed over 100 pages detailing every little detail of how a frontal lobe injury at age 2 affected me and exactly how I differ from humans. I typed on days where it was just me typing what my day contained and for long enough they got to see my energy go from very wow in one way to very wow in another. The judge eventually approved my case before the hearing. Remember they don't know you. You are just someone like any other unless you somehow let them see who you are. Tons and tons and tons of people with no incomestopping disability at all simply give an attorney a chunk of what they will get and have the attorney make it happen. If you, like me, are not capable of wading through the infinite beauracracy, I believe you have to do something beyond the norm to let them see you can't. Yes the system is set up wrong. Mentally normal people can wade through the muck easy. People the system is meant for cannot.
Really though the government of the place we call home should be something we are proud of
seems it's up to us to make it this way since it starts so bad
Not OP, but in a same situation. Thanks. I'll remember this. And by that I mean I'm screenshotting it because I find it valuable.
I had to get illegal adhd meds in order to get through the process of getting my medical approval to take legal adhd meds
Thank god for the black market
when this happened to me, I filled it around 2am the day before my follow up appointment but had no time to print it so I went there hoping I would be able to email it to them.
narrator: they didn't want to accept it by email
TBF most of the time 18 of the pages are situational that you only fill out if it applies to you.
Doesn't really matter much when you can't even start though.
The system works! /s
… there's forms you can fill out yourself? Late 20s, i was sent a 40 page workbook and told to give it to my parents. My parents were dead (and they would've never helped me anyway), so I was rejected before i'd even seen a doctor.
A nurse suggested getting an old teacher to fill it out. They're all dead or retired. On the opposite side of the planet. And they speak a different language. And they wouldn't recognise me or my name. Every single one of them would invariably describe me as violent and lazy, just like my parents did. but apparently i need a neurotypical to vouch for my disability in person, and this neurotypical has to be someone who had power over me as a child. Countless referrals from other psychologists do not count. Partners and friends I've known for decades also do not count, and they matter even less if they are also neurodivergent.
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I rest my case
Damn I haven't heard about Katie Charm in a while, I hope she's doing ok.
if you're able to complete disability paperwork, then you're not disabled...
there's actually a fair amount of lawyers who specialize in getting people their disability rights, rather than let malicious compliance keep disabled people homeless and impoverished
Lmao this reminds me of this tweet
Hopefully more people see your convo with glimse and understand that this is a joke
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