The originally calculated timeframe was incorrect, so rather than change what year it is, religious scholars just say Jesus, if he existed at all, was born in 6-4 B.C.E.
The Bible puts Jesus's birth before the death of Herod the Great, which happened shortly after a Lunar eclipse - we now know that happened in March, 4 B.C.E.
However, it's also possible Jesus was born as far back as 6 B.C.E., what with Herod ordering the killing of all male babies under 2 years of age, and it is written that effort was made to hide Jesus from this.
Of course, it's all likely bs anyway, but there is a somewhat logical reason for the whole Jesus's birth not lining up with year 0 thing.
Great comment. I only wonder how you were going to profit from this, o nagus
His post was sponsored by NordVPN
Don't question the nagus, surely someone as esteemed as his lobeliness knows what they're doing. A wise man can smell profit in the wind.
Selling Jesus merch, duh. Have you seen some of the crap those people buy? Hopefully they live in The Bible Belt, and not Las Vegas, which is where I would expect to run into Ferengi.
None of the new testament was written down until at least 200 as far as we know. It was all oral history until that point. So best case those first authors got stories originally witnessed by their great great great great grandparents. But of course there were no mistellings or misrememberings of the story along the way; god wouldn't let that happen.
Yes, the calendar was made by monks many centuries later that were doing the best they could to estimate when Jesus was born.
This is disputed by exactly no one.
Also, the monks were shooting for 1 AD to be the year of the birth of Jesus.
Yes, Everything about "Jesus" was made up by monks many centuries later...
FTFY
Well that's may be your belief but the consensus among historians is that there was a man called Jesus of Nazareth that existed.
But many religions create their own alternate versions of history, so I wouldn't expect atheism to be any different. But it's important to recognize it as a belief and understand your belief is inconsistent with the consensus of experts in the relevant field.
If you're wondering, this is because the dates were not set until several hundred years after Jesus died, and the monk who did it fucked up. They calculated a date and set that as the first year (there is no 0 between 1 BC and 1 AD) almost 500 years after Jesus was born.
Then later they counted again, finding they were off by 4-6 years and they miscalculated, and instead of changing the entire calendar for the whole world, they bumped Jesus' birthdate instead.
Can we please just switch to “Human Era” dating?
Kurzgesagt?
Yep. Kurzgesagt!
I welcome you, fellow human, to the year 12,024 👍
AKA “Holocene calendar”: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_calendar
Christians changed the calendar because that's what religious people do. There's a Buddhist calendar too, ya know?
So atheists want to change the Calendar because... ?
Yeah atheism is a religion. Y'all are just in denial about it.
Christians changed the calendar because that's what religious people do
That’s a reductionist take. They wanted to inject their religion into culture and constantly remind everyone about it. It certainly does not define what is or is not a religion.
So atheists want to change the Calendar because... ?
Because we don’t share the Christian assumption that their religion deserves to be named in our timekeeping system. It never should have been put there in the first place, and we’re undoing the mistake.
Yeah atheism is a religion. Y'all are just in denial about it.
Not wanting to reference someone else’s religion every time you refer to a date does not make someone religious. This is a silly take, and I think you know it.
Citation needed.
In addition to other people explaining why this is the case, I'd just like to point out that there would never be a "year zero", regardless of when you started counting years.
Plus the fact that Jesus wasn’t a real person, but a complete fabrication.
I go with Hitchens' take; the ridiculous census that's shoehorned in seems like an effort to reconcile a real person with the prophecies. Jesus was likely a real person whose life has been exaggerated and built upon to the point of legend.
I’ll post this twice to address different replies.
https://youtu.be/LTllC7TbM8M?si=BOMT6GovxV_1ImkF
Very interesting lecture and the guy says no one has provided any proof that there was in fact a real person called Jesus at the time. All the ‘proof’ relies on other people claiming that there’s proof / and or pointing to the Bible.
I’ll post this twice to address different replies.
https://youtu.be/LTllC7TbM8M?si=BOMT6GovxV_1ImkF
Very interesting lecture and the guy says no one has provided any proof that there was in fact a real person called Jesus at the time. All the ‘proof’ relies on other people claiming that there’s proof / and or pointing to the Bible.
Yes I’ve just read the Wikipedia link you’ve posted but it doesn’t actually point to non-religious sources. All these things are like the Spider-Man meme.
AFAIK there are no Roman administration records of Pontius Pilate executing sone dude called Jesus.
It’s all made up later on.
