"Shame must change sides": a Belgian model warns about deepnudes
"Shame must change sides": a Belgian model warns about deepnudes
Julia, 21, has received fake nude photos of herself generated by artificial intelligence. The phenomenon is exploding.
Julia, 21, has received fake nude photos of herself generated by artificial intelligence. The phenomenon is exploding.
"I'd already heard about deepfakes and deepnudes (...) but I wasn't really aware of it until it happened to me. It was a slightly anecdotal event that happened in other people's lives, but it wouldn't happen in mine", thought Julia, a 21-year-old Belgian marketing student and semi-professional model.
At the end of September 2023, she received an email from an anonymous author. Subject: "Realistic? "We wonder which photo would best resemble you", she reads.
Attached were five photos of her.
In the original content, posted on her social networks, Julia poses dressed. In front of her eyes are the same photos. Only this time, Julia is completely naked.
Julia has never posed naked. She never took these photos. The Belgian model realises that she has been the victim of a deepfake.
Is this different to how people would edit Britney Spears' face onto porn stars in the 90s?
It's much easier to do now. You should be able to do several in a single minute and the barrier to entry of using the software is way lower than Photoshop. Legally though, these seem indistinguishable.
They're easier to create and more realistic. The prevalence and magnitude of an immoral act impacts how it should be legislated. Personally I don't care if people make these and keep it to themselves, but as soon as you spread it I think it's immoral and harassment and there should be laws to prevent it.
It's like that, except deep
Probably should have sued those people too... People need to cut this shit out. You're fucking with others people's life's.
They're not going to. There is an insane amount of entitlement around people's jerk off material. Right here on Lemmy, I've seen someone (who denied being a child) call pornography a "human right" and groups of people insisting they should be able to openly trade images of child rape as long as they're AI generated.
I think porn generation (image, audio and video) will eventually be very realistic and very easy to make with only a few clicks and some well crafted prompts. Things would just be a whole other level that what Photoshop used to be.
I said it before, banning this doesn’t work. Legislation will always play catch up to the ever improving technologies, the best we can do is flood the internet with ai porn. Of everyone, as much as possible. To the point nobody even cares any more, because there is nudity of everyone. Normalize it before it ruins lives
The other option, and the more likely one, is an extremely broad law that is intended to account for future technologies but will actually be used to further erode civil liberties.
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Whatever I search on Pinterest, Google, Bing, the images there nowadays are mostly just AI generated. I am so used to them by now, I just don't care anymore. Whatever makes me feel like it's cool, I praise it. Recently hyper realistic AI generated videos have been popping up, and once there's enough of datasets of free porn videos, which is most definitely coming out in a few years, the Porn industry is going to be filled with AI generated porn videos as well.
I think AI generated porn videos are going to be very realistic because there's so much free porn.
This is going to be a serious issue in the future - either society changes and these things are going to be accepted or these kind of generating ai models have to be banned. But that's still not going to be a "security" against it...
I also think we have to come up with digital watermarks that are easy to use...
Honestly, I see it as kinda freeing. Now people don't have to worry about nudes leaking any more, since you can just say they're fake. Somebody starts sending around deepfakes of me? OK, whatever, weirdo, it's not real.
I think there's a big difference between creating them and spreading them, and putting punishments on spreading nudes against someone's will, real or fake is a better 3rd option. The free speech implications of banning software that's capable of creating them is too broad and fuzzy, but I think that putting harsh penalties on spreading them on the grounds of harassment would be clear cut and effective. I didn't see a big difference in between spreading revenge porn and deep fakes and we already have laws against spreading revenge porn.
With ai and digital art... What is real? What is a person? What is a cartoon or a similar but not same likeness? In some cases what even is nudity? How old is an ai image? How can anything then be legal or illegal?
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Where did it say anything about a Ministry of Truth deciding what can be posted online? Making it illegal and having a 3rd party decide if every post is allowed are two very different things
If it’s illegal then there are ramifications for the platform, the user posting it, and the tool that created it.
Content moderation is already a thing so it’s nothing new. Just one more thing on the list to check for when a post is reported
It's not a serious issue at all.
Of course, if you're the kind of greedy/lazy person who wants to make money off of pictures of their body, you're going to have to find a real job.
I seriously don't get why society cares if there are photos of anyone's private parts.
I think we as a society are too uptight about nudity, but that doesn't mean that creating pictures of people without their consent, which make them feel uncomfortable, is in any way OK.
What about photos of politics in compromising situations? Should we have them without their consent?
I think the issue is that there is sexual imagery of the person being created and shared without that persons consent.
It's akin to taking nude photos of someone without their consent, or sharing nude photos with someone other than their intended audience.
Even if there were no stigma attached to nudes, that doesn't mean someone would their nudes to exist or be shared.
I’ll continue this conversation in good faith only after you’ve shown us yours to prove your position.
Right??? I send strangers pictures of mine all the time!!
Modern surveillance capitalism has made sharing of private data normalised. These days we are very used to sharing pretty much everything about ourselves, in addition to having no control over how that information is used. That is a bad thing.
I suspect that these tools will, similarly, make nudity a bit more normalised in many societies across the world. That is probably a good thing overall.
Someone at TikTok has all the power to make nudes off every one in the planet except for 5 homeless guys from LA that you don't want a nude from anyway. Tiktok has the images of you (you idiot) and the hardware and software required to fake you to everyone you know.
Welcome to China 2.0!
Pal, what the fuck are you talking about? TikTok and China are not mentioned anywhere in this article and nowhere on TikTok is there an option to generate anyone's likeness, clothed or unclothed.