Color department? 🤔
You know, the room inside your monitor full of little hamsters with tiny paintbrushes that speed paint everything onto the screen from the inside. They used to have a lot more room, but we had to breed the hamsters way smaller.
This is a beautiful description
Depth
Steam isn't even on wayland - complain about that ticket if you want HDR lol.
not to mention steam actually does have some degree of HDR support through gamescope, which steamdeck ships with.
(also HDR support on linux has barely started being a thing this year...)
Why would a games launcher even need HDR? Whether games support HDR or not is completely disconnected from HDR support of Steam.
Also Valve is sponsoring upstream development of HDR support in KWin and wlroots (Gamescope is based on it). Red Hat is working on Gnome stuff.
That’s just the client itself. It’s also not entirely their fault, since they use CEF, and CEF is a colossal pain in the ass. The issues and the pull requests are all there, but it doesn’t seem like anyone is actively working on them at this point
Last I saw it was about merging in the upstream CEF wayland support
but yes, the client could be x11 and somehow still launch games in wayland, which could also be a solution - not too dissimilar to gamescope I suppose. I ain't got no clue on how that works tho ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Whelp, gnome doesn't even support hdr yet, but kde added preliminary support just recently. Also, nvidia added supports for hdr just recently with their v550 driver, released just last month. You probably can run hdr games today if you're willing to put some elbow grease. I'm lazy though, so I'll just wait.
It's not that hard, actually.
Got it working with Armoured Core VI on KDE, you just have to run the game in gamescope with some flags to enable HDR, and then KDE will pick that up as long as your monitor is HDR and it's enabled.
Forbidden West crashes when I enable HDR in the game settings, and Helldivers HDR is just so bad it's not worth using.
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What is 10 bpc color? I am a Low end user. So, Please tell me
Imagine a gradient bar of red, green, or blue on a display. The latest displays show so many colors that the 256 shades in an 8-bits channel will show banding.
Banding is horrible for photo/video editing hence 10 bit displays that can show 1024 shades in a single channel which is more shades than our eyes can see.
HDR in gaming also uses 10-bit per channel, but it's often a gimmick with current cheap gaming displays and might show banding even if there are technically 10-bits. OLED gaming monitors should be able to display 10-bit accurately though.
Thanks for explanation
It's useless if you don't play games. 10-bit color depth. Most monitors and graphics cards support only 8-bit (per color). But high end ones, yeah, they do support 10-bit (HDR monitors).
The meme is not mine, stole it, but I did find it funny, even though I don't play games.
EDIT: Whenever you see a meme from me, just presume it was stolen, lol. I rarely make my own.
EDIT: Whenever you see a meme from me, just presume it was stolen, lol. I rarely make my own.
That one was already clear when you wrote "It’s useless if you don’t play games." Actual media artists wouldn't say that about higher color depth.
PS: Professional media production uses 16bits per color channel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_depth#48-bit
Most monitors and graphics cards support only 8-bit (per color).
Plenty of monitors support 10 bit colour. You need higher than 8 bit for any colour spaces larger than sRGB, such as DCI-P3 or Adobe RGB, and most good monitors support higher than 100% sRGB coverage.
Out of all the colours that humans can perceive, sRGB covers around 35% of them, DCI-P3 covers around 52%, and Rec 2020 (which is 11 or 12 bit) covers around 75%. Colours look more vibrant when using DCI-P3 or Rec 2020 because there's literally more colours available.
Probably useless 10bits depth per color?
Isn't HDR support on linux just a nightmare in general? I guess Steam is just waiting for linux to get its act together on this decades old feature rather than join in the madness it currently is.
Last time I tried it, it was a nightmare on Windows as well.
I have an HDR monitor and I turned that off because it looked awful. Nex Machina was completely unplayable even then, as it detected it anyway and shows a completely washed out picture.
Only consoles and set top boxes seem to support it properly. It looks really good when it works.
I had the exact same infuriating experience the first half hour of using my OLED panel but it turns out it was simply because Firefox doesn't support hdr. You have to use edge or chrome for hdr content online. So now I use edge purely for YouTube and Firefox for everything else.
The SteamDeck OLED has HDR support and so does KDE.
KDE has only had HDR support for a month.
I recently asked questions about HDR & automatic refreshrate switching for a linux HTPC, and the advice in the end was just to find whatever distro already has it all precofigured (and conflcting advice whether i'd need Wayland or X)... i was kind of amazed how poorly supported it appeared to be.
So yeah, if steam is like "yeah, we won't try to venture into that swamp", can't say i blame them after having dared to ask how to get it to work myself.
I've been able to play cyberpunk and the witcher in HDR, also elite dangerous. I have to use a separate tty where I launch gamescope, and have to boot with a patched kernel on a separate bootloader entry. It's not ideal, certainly, but it does work and the experience is good once I did get it working.
Why do you even need that?
Because HDR is fucking amazing? Games really come to life with bright and vibrant colors.
I want to switch to Linux eventually xbut won't until it not only has full HDR support, but can also convert SDR games to HDR like Windows 11 can.
Forbidden West in HDR is absolutely fucking incredible
Ekhm, Steam is still 32 bit app with only X11 support. It can’t even figure out UI scaling based pn global scale. It’s generally a mess.
Hdr is the least of my worries, I want asynchronous reprojection in VR, PLEASE.
Wayland compositors might implement it this century
I thought some Wayland compositors already supported 10 bit per channel colour?
They do, I was joking. It's not as funny to say the ecosystem is slowly trudging along.
Amateurs should close tickets after 30 days and disable users replying to their own posts.
Where is this taken from ? 🫣🤔
This is the clip, it’s from the recent documentary about David Beckham on Netflix.
lol was more entertaining than I expected
Oh, now the meme makes sense.. 😂
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Meh. My eyes not good enough anyway... It all looks great to me.
Youngsters these days... am I right?
HDR and anti-cheats are the main reasons I can't fully switch over. I am niche and particular about things so I do think I'd enjoy Linux if it weren't for the games I play. I have an OLED display and too many hours in Valorant. It's like I accidentally upgraded out of Linux.
good reason to have a dual boot then, windows strictly for gaming, linux for everything else, at least that's how I do It
I've done that for ages. I still have a windows disc in my main machine even if it hasn't been used in years.
