“Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you capitalists do not. You move to an area and you exploit and exploit until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Capitalism is a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure.”
Capitalism is a mode of production that formed by consuming other modes of production (regions which generally had more capital and usury control where they were highly developed for the time period) in the areas which constituted the main population centers and developments of civilization throughout history up until one millenia ago. West Asia, India, and China. Since then Europeans have engaged in a campaign of suffering so massive it threatens to extinguish not only ways of life but forms of life, entire damn categories of lifeforms.
Can I get a translation on this
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I see that mindset in mega-corps, but at the smallest of scales... one can wash a car or fix a bike and add value to (and thus grow) the system, which logically means it's not closed/finite.
You just showed the system of value goes beyond making new products... But it is still finite, there will be only so many cars to wash (or more accurately, people willing to pay to get their car washed) or bikes that can be fixed.
It can be a big systems but it is finite
I'm sorry, it's difficult for me to follow your logic, but I really appreciate your time in responding. I know at one time there were zero bikes, now there are more than zero, and I suspect more will be created... same with money, so I don't understand how that is finite.
For discussion, perhaps it would be easier to reduce the complexity. In a capitalist system, if I own a fruit tree in an ideal climate then not only can it be duplicated, but either it will produce value by itself, or I will by picking its fruit. AFAICS this added fruit is more value, and the system has grown. Further I can then use this fruit to trade for bike repair or car washings. Is that not right?
Capitalism is not based on the notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.
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It's also not a closed, finite system because it relies on the extraction of resources and labor from outside of the imperial core.
sadly the earth is a finite system except for inputting radiation and outputting entropy
outside of the imperial core
The closed system refers to planet Earth.
what's that? is it an airplane? is it a rocket? no, it's Captain Obvious !!
Here I thought it was based on the fact that humans are the worst and it is best to harness what little you can lest they take everything.
I don't know what cancer has to do with a closed environment. More like a failed "ecosystem in a jar*.
The body of an organism is a closed environment. It can be seen as an ecosystem of lots of different cells that live with in this environment. Cancer is just a mutation that allows some cells to replicate and spread through their environment in uncontrolled fashion.
In abstraction, chemotherapy is the idea of "have you tried turning it off and on again" for the immune system.
