Man I'm a progressive and even I can tell this is propaganda.
Also, missed a bunch of presidents? Bush 1 after Reagan. Lyndon B, Nixon, Ford and CARTER between Kennedy and Reagan.
I obviously agree with the overall message (that "both sides" is and always has been bullshit) but c'mon man.
Edit: like, you could put the actual campaign goals and summarized impacts and then it would be a real infographic. Like "passed tax cuts for top _% of income earning Americans" "repealed gun laws". It's still cherry picking and biased but that's what moves something like this out of the realm of propaganda and into I dunno...something more like biased news? Bias isn't inherently bad, obviously when you're trying to have an argument you have a side and an agenda.
To be fair, I don't believe Trump's goal is more money for rich people.
I believe it's more money for himself but to do that he works towards more money for rich people because those rich people will in turn support and fund him further.
He's too damn selfish to actually consider people, rich or not.
A huge part of Clinton's deficit reduction was eviscerating welfare with the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act. He also made a lot of money for rich people by repealing the Glass-Steagall Act, which directly let to the 2008 financial collapse. Also, Obamacare is not Universal Healthcare; Obama would have needed to keep the Public Option for it to be considered universal coverage. He also made a lot of money for rich people through TARP.
I remember with each Presidential change, that when a Republican president came into power, they had a budget surplus, created by their democratic predecessor, which they then squandered, and when it was tome to switch to a democratic president, they got a deficit, and managed to work theyr way out of it. Each time, fox would comment on how these Democrat presidents always had a deficit. It was, and continues to be, maddening.
Require news organizations to be truthful again, fuck that "but much first amendment" bullshit, one has nothing to do with the other
Clinton is one of the worst. The party went, can't beat 'em, might as well join em.
Clinton essentially fulfilled some of the great Republican dreams of deregulation. See Glass-Stegall how he joined hands with Republicans. Which you can then fast forward to the banking and financial crisis that hit the world and screwed economies and brought austerity programs worldwide.
Dare ya to read up on all the congressional stock trading from not just Repubs but very much Dems as well.
The party went fully corporate with Clinton.
Democrats aren't for more money for rich people? News to me. Nice job leaving off things like welfare reform, the crime bill, and the repeal of glass-steagall (which led to the 2008 global financial crisis) from under clinton. You left off obama continuing the policy of bailouts for the rich after the 2008 global financial crisis, his support for the surveillance state (and going after Snowden after claiming to protect whistleblowers), and bombing so many more countries (like Libya, Somalia, Yemen, and Syria). Of course there's the glaring absence of supporting genocide under biden, but I think you get the picture.
Both sides aren't the same in all things, but they are definitely the same in supporting the rich first and foremost. Democrats are better than republicans, but you're not making a strong point by pretending democrats only do good things.
Saving Democracy
Biden was responsible for removing the democratically elected prime minister in Pakistan because he refused to follow the geopolitical whims of the USA. His entire party is dead in the water with several MNAs assasinated, hundreds tortured, and thousands of supporters still in jail without trial or bail.
So respectfully, fuck off with this shitty propaganda meme.
Clinton repealled the Glass-Steagal act, which led to the 2008 crash, Obama's unconditional bailouts of financial institutions and ultra-low interest rates and subsequent hyperfinancialization of the Economy, the current house prices bubbles, an explosion in inequality, and an even further collapse of social mobility in the US.
To say that he doubled-down on Reagan's work is an underestimation.
Sure, it's all a bit obscure for those who weren't in Finance during the period around 2008, but that doesn't make it any less so.
(And lets not forget his wife's later "got paid million dollar for a speech to a room full of financiers" that helped her loose to none other than Donald Trump)
The idea that almost all those Democrats in that list didn't do "More money for the rich" is hilarious.
Also as an European in a country with a National Health Service, celebrating Obama's version of "Universal Healthcare" is "you're fucking kidding me"-level insulting.
That stuff is some Narnia-level Eyes Hard Closed level of tribalist self-delusion.
So glad Obama gave us universal healthcare.... Oh wait.
We all know this is bullshit right? Neither the Republicans or the Democrats give a shit about anything else then making rich people more money. I'm sorry to break it to you but the Democrats aren't your friends. I know they pretended to be but they're not. They are just as much your enemy as the Republicans. 😞
If you only compare democrats to republicans, every Democrat is going to look amazing.
Like comparing a large McDonalds combo meal to a literal shit sandwich.
I'll always take some Mickey D's in that choice. Even though it's probably been a decade since I've actually ate that trash.
But if those are my only two options for every meal, I know on a long enough timeline the McDonald's is going to kill me. Eventually I got to start asking why my only options are something bad for me and something that's drastically worse for me.
I just want a fucking salad for once. Like, let's just give it a chance, see how it works out.
And yet people's lives haven't improved much, if at all, in quite some time. The war machine is also still marching forward; we spend billions on things that don't actually improve the lives of the average person. Both sides of the aisle are bought and you can't just ignore that. With all of that said, I'm still voting for Biden, but only because I'm forced to due to how unbelievably fucked our system is.
Here are Clinton's claimed achievements. It's a lot more than "the deficit". There's a reason why he was reelected:
https://clintonwhitehouse5.archives.gov/WH/Accomplishments/eightyears-01.html
Usually when I read “both sides are the same”, it’s a blue conservative like you trying to make people critical of the Democratic party seem unreasonable.
Both sides are capitalist and conservative, but there are differences for sure. Dont you want more differences?
If you wanna really shut up those people bitching from the sidelines, the best way to do so is to put them in the game! Force them to show us how to do things since it’s so easy and they have it all figured out.
Switching away from first past the post voting allows people to vote for who represents them best while still counting their vote against those they dont want to win. Just search for videos on FPTP voting if you want an explanation on how and why the spoiler effect exists.
Electoral reform is possible in each individual state (for now), we dont need federal reform! Maine and Alaska have already passed electoral reform.
Republicans are moving to make alternative electoral systems illegal in their states. Why would you want to use the same voting system republicans prefer?
More political parties means a higher percentage of the population is represented by their choices in the voting booth. More people involved in the electoral process, more people engaged.
Its a win win win all around for not just the people, but also for the democratic party. More people voting means more democratic votes. The numbers dont lie. So what’s the hold up blue states? Electoral reform needs to be the number one priority for every democrat. No more waiting.
Consider starting a campaign to change how we vote in your own state! Force our representatives to compete with fresh outside ideas. We deserve the best representation, not excuses.
Even though I agree with the sentiment, and being a very extreme leftist myself, this is cartoonishly lopsided.
This will not convince anyone. Have fun preaching to the choir I guess, it is a pointless endeavor 🤷🏻♀️
If we want to turn people away from them, it will take more than pointing out that they’re evil, however true it may be. (And don’t misunderstand me, it is very true)
Ok but this is not balanced because you didn't list all the great things Trump has in store:
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The definitive end of democracy
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ww3
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all money that's left goes to billionaires
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hopefully the end of humanity
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Nobody left to incriminate him with anything
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huge wins
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nobody has ever seen wins such as this
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anybody? Hello?
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You forgot:
Johnson: Eliminate Poverty
Nixon: Burglary and coverup
Ford: Swine Flu vaccination
Carter: Egypt/Israel peace agreementBush and Bush Jr both fed the war machine
Dawg you cant be serious. They both want more money for rich people 💀
Trump wants to win because he is a narcissist and really needs a few get out of jail free cards.
Sure seems like bOtH SiDeZ have started blatantly lying for their propoganda, and are trying their damnedest to villify the other by pretending that they are perfect. If you're demanding unquestioning loyalty, you're a fascist regardless of your label.
Bush: More money for rich People, killing a bunch of brown people, try to be be even more of a global disaster as dear old dad (was close but too incompetent to do it)
Obama: More money for rich people, killing a bunch of brown people
Trump: More money for rich people, killing a bunch of brown people, destroying democracy, treason, try to be even more of a global disaster as Reagan (was close but too incompetent to do it, there's always next time)
Biden: More money for rich people, killing a bunch of brown people
Infrastructure was done under every president but Trump and is normal functioning governance.
Corporate subsidy and monopolization of EV market
Corporate subsidy for MIC
Not actually loan Reform, college is more expensive than ever
Drug pricing might be the only novel and just good thing going on this list. But it's certainly not stacking up to ACA and Zero Deficit Budgeting.
Yet another bad faith meme trying to make Biden look more friendly to the average American than he is.
In other news today we found out he never meant for Palestine to have it's own state. That was all lies. We know this because the cables leaked showing the US trying their damnedest to get other countries to vote against Palestinian Statehood. This couldn't possibly be a distraction from that, right guys?
Plus W, who I feel like we're all collectively okay with ignoring right now.
He's also going to fix all ice cream machines nationwide.
Lowering admission standards is not helping the country, is dumbing it down.
I mean usually if you wanted to jerk off in front of other people, you'd pay like, an e-girl to watch you do it and give maybe a live football commentary or whatever. Guess shitposting also works though
I'm convinced that Lemmy is riddled with Russian bot farms trying to stir up shit. I'm mostly democrat and believe Biden is a net good over Trump, but I won't delude myself into thinking they care about me personally. How-fucking-ever, Trump is a literal threat to our democracy and if we can't rally against him by rallying for Biden, we're absolutely fucked. And you morons are just giving into this extreme lefty rhetoric because of people like Hasan? That mother fucker is a millionaire and lives like one too.
Lemmy is a worse echo chamber than reddit. I was proud when I came here during the API-bullshit and supported Sync for Lemmy but I can't do this shit any more. I'm actually embarrassed to come here and read all this anti Biden shit while you guys complain about roe v wade being overturned, billionaires (which trump made the biggest tax cuts in history to), Israel (which is somehow Biden's fault? 🤣).
I believe this post, OP. Whether you're trolling or not. Everyone else can go fuck yourselves. Go ahead and ban this one too, mods. Since we're not living in an echo chamber.
Is anyone buying these lib propaganda memes? Carter is the one the screwed over the economy.
