Analysis Finds Nearly 100% of Campus Gaza Protests Have Been Peaceful
Analysis Finds Nearly 100% of Campus Gaza Protests Have Been Peaceful | Common Dreams
It kind of sucks that having literal video proof of how it all went down doesn't actually matter. They just say whatever they want, and so many people will never look into it, just take their word.
Too bad Biden and other "moderates" Dems care about as much about facts and logics as trump does.
Their donors want them to shit on protestors, so that's what they'll do.
Biden's going to fuck around and let trump win because he can't stand up to Israel.
Should he have done it sooner? Absolutely, but it is a step at least, now let’s see what happens when push comes to shove.
I may just be to cynical at this point but I don't trust that at all. It's just a pause.
Biden has structured that block as a "Type 2" decision. It creates the illusion of standing up to Israel but it allows him to instantly and unilaterally completely reverse it as soon as public attention has shifted.
Given history, I expect that's exactly what will happen. Once the IDF murders enough people in Rafah, they'll be "done". Then they can pretend that they've turned over a new leaf and definitely won't do any more genocide. Biden will congratulate them and resume all the weapons shipments, including sending the stuff that's currently being held back.
Short of restructuring this as a "Type 1" decision, there's little reason to think this is anything beyond theatrics.
[serious] why are there so many 'moderate' biden stans on this site (not you, but generally)? i thought lemmy was the sort of leftist reddit alternative
Because it's a misrepresentation of people defending Biden and leftist in general.
Just because someone defends Biden doesn't mean they support him. There's a lot of hyperbolic invective being directed at him. And he definitely has himself to blame for some of it. Expediting CONGRESS'S shipment of arms to Israel. And trying to stay as neutral and diplomatic as possible in the face of the horrors Israel is unleashing.
It seems suspicious how narrow the focus is on him however. With literally no one pestering their Congress critters who could actually do something about all of this. Sure we should pressure Biden to lead better. But if people actually wanted to get things done and not just virtue signal, they'd be yelling at Congress more.
And finally leftist != accelerationist. Some, like ML know their ideology isn't an actual improvement over capitalism. That the only way they could convince people to switch to their ideology is to destroy and degrade things much like capitalists do to other countries. But plenty of us lefties think both of them are wrong and pragmatically try to work to make things better.
I can't stand biden or the dems, and I would rather have lobster's chew on my balls than vote repub. But at the end of the day, trump would hand the keys to gaza and the west bank over to Israel and gladly sweep the blood under the welcome mat.... he'd do the exact same with Ukraine and russia...so while I can't stand the blue team, we're going to get the world on fire if trump and repubs are elected. Anyone who thinks that trump is worth the gamble is full on delusional.
Biden has supported the protests and only condemned breaking the law and antisemitism along with Islamophobia. Which as president, he should. Specifically he spoke out when protesters took over Hamilton Hall.
condemned breaking the law
really novel stuff here. thank god we have a competent president there to say breaking the law is bad
also
We can never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was "legal" and everything the Hungarian freedom fighters did in Hungary was "illegal." It was "illegal" to aid and comfort a Jew in Hitler's Germany. But I am sure that if I had lived in Germany during that time, I would have aided and comforted my Jewish brothers even though it was illegal. If I lived in a Communist country today where certain principles dear to the Christian faith are suppressed, I believe I would openly advocate disobeying these anti-religious laws.
What support did he provide to the protests?
Too bad Biden and other “moderates” Dems care about as much about facts and logics as trump does.
Liberals on lemmy seeing any criticism asking Biden be held accountable for decisions Biden makes:
I’m pretty sure the mainstream media has a different take that they’d like for me to buy. Didn’t a foreign leader say antisemitism is running rampant? He certainly doesn’t have an agenda!
This surprises me exactly zero.
There was also former Israeli military and intelligence employees boasting about being in the mob that riled up and attacked the peaceful encampments. But sure no problem to have foreign agents stir riots in your country
Repubes are comparing campus protests to Jan 6th
I suppose hurling racial slurs at Jewish students doesn't constitute violence.
Anecdotes so few and far between, meanwhile the anti-zionist movement is absolutely flooded with jewish voices. A narrative to dismiss protests, designed to resists hard evidence...like the article you are ignoring here.
the zionists are the ones doing that
You actually couldn't, since it wasn't peaceful and it wasn't counter-protestors causing the violence and destruction.
The police literally caused more damage to people and the property at Columbia University while removing the students than the students ever did.
There was one of those and multiple people died.
Thousands of videos exist of that too. We don't have to guess what happened, we know how many of them were not peaceful. We also know what their goals were and how close they got to achieving them.
Just like all the video analysis and the physical evidence at these scenes tell us how peaceful they indeed were.
Speaking of video footage, have you recently rewatched footage of the jan 6 riots, even stuff they released themselves that they thought was showing themselves in a positive light at the time...
Of the violent protests, how many protestors at those specific protests do you imagine would be considered "violent" by the same metric?
I don't have those numbers, I'm just trying to show this argument goes both ways.
Peaceful... until the cops show up and get violent with the protestors.
Bingo. Cops excel in escalation.
They’re thoroughly trained in deescalation tactics, then use inverse language to justify self defense and charges.
this is what always makes me insane. police presence inherently increases tension because oh now here's a gang of jackbooted thugs with guns and tasers and the power to ruin your life and/or murder you and get away with it, just hangin out. just tryna keep people safe.
i mean that shit must only work on the boomeriest boomers, right? that would only help at a particularly rowdy Kenny Chesney concert