Win for Free Speech! Australia Drops Global Takedown Order Case | Electronic Frontier Foundation
Win for Free Speech! Australia Drops Global Takedown Order Case | Electronic Frontier Foundation
No single country should be able to restrict speech across the entire internet. That's why EFF celebrates the news that Australia's eSafety Commissioner is dropping its legal effort to have content on X taken down across the globe. This development comes just days after EFF and FIRE were granted off...
This isn't necessarily good
This article doesn't say what X was being sued for.
Musk should have removed that regardless. He's simply leaving it up because it's profitable for him. This is actually a win for him because it means he doesn't get any responsibility of moderation.
The content is irrelevant. One country should not censor the entire web. I don't care how terrible it is. It is easy to say a stabbing is bad but what about a criticism or a leader or hard discussions.
I don't live in Australia but yet they were trying to enforce there legislation on me. Australia is very much not the only country that is guilty of this. It is one win in the bigger picture.
If a international platform wants to host something questionable they should have the right to. If it violates local law they just remove it from the specific country.
What if its Child porn or revenge porn?
Or a video of your wife being tortured or raped? Suddenly its not ok? What happens if the family of the victims don't want it up? They don't want to be reminded of that shit. You say this only because it doesn't affect you in this case and it's not your family
it DOES affect me because I'm in Australia, and we don't want copycat dickheads. We don't want school shooting 5x a week, and we don't want organisations like the NRA coming to australia and using this shit as an excuse for everyone to arm themselves. The worlds worst extremists dickheads love pushing videos like this because it helps their agenda.
There's no incentive for Elon to take any of this stuff down either.. It profits him. It's funny that people like Elon have a cry about people tracking his plane and gets what he wants and everyone calls him a nutjob.. But, then he profits from stuff that has REAL consequences that affects everyone, and he is defended.
What about the US where Trump used inflamatory language on social media which led to an attempt to the overthrow of the government.
Lets not pretend, this is about freedom of speech. This is explicitly because its not profitable to censor posts. Elon can pretend like he's the good guy in this case and keep all the people who want it to be kept up, and all the people who want it down. Why do you think X seems to be the preferred platform for bigots and nazi's? It would be good if we could see how much profit they were generating for him
There needs to be some international rules about some of this stuff. I'm not saying blanket ban for everything, but, there should at least be rules where people are harmed, torture, or violence is encouraged
I agree, but I think it is more complex than that. There are limits to free speech already. I agree that no one country should be able to censor others, but what about content that is illegally produced in that country.
So if terrorist training videos were made in Australia, could banning them from distribution mean they could prosecute fitter for distributing them? How about csam? How about China prosecutes for ibfro about Tiananmen. What about CSAM?
So objectively there are things some countries would want banned, but not all. Some that all might agree to ban. Classifying it might help but might that be more of an invasion of privacy? The web is built on lots of open protocols that assume good actors and no malicious intent. We are now adding protocols that increase privacy and security on top. Even something like the fediverse is a good example of the trade off between being public and being anonymous and being private. You can't have it all.
As an Australian I am happy we are protected by this form of government censorship, making it harder for them to sweep other atrocities under the rug.I do wish however social media would be more active in restricting graphic content.Edit: I read the article again, sadly it was a voluntary retraction of the take down order, not a law preventing them.
I do not have any obligation to follow the laws in a foreign country. It doesn't matter how graphics or controversial it is. A country takedown order should be country specific. It is an overreach to try to do it world wide.