The charges against Hunter Biden stemmed from paperwork he filled out when he bought a handgun nearly six years ago, when prosecutors say he was addicted to crack cocaine.
People keep making this joke, but like, would you really not vote for him if he was the Dem nominee?
Our last two Dem nominees have been the wife of one president, and then the VP of the next Dem president. One of HW kids was president, and another came close despite neither having charisma or intelligence. Shit, look at RFK jr running around.
And people keep saying it doesn't matter how bad the Dem is, republicans are worse.
So if Hunter is on the ballot in 2028 against a Republican, you really wouldn't vote for him?
I wouldn't, but having standards other than the letter by someone's name isn't a popular position here unless it's hypothetical.
But I'd take a crackhead over someone that supports genocide. And if we're taking someone that supports genocide over a Republican...
Doesnt the transitive property of logic thing mean we should vote vote for Hunter if the only other option is a Republican?
Why does everyone have standards when it's hypothetical and doesn't matter, but we throw them out the window when it's real?
Why ask questions about something completely irrelevsnt?
Trump's kids were in the news because they had postitions in his administration and were potentionally going to get into politics. Hunter has zero relevance for Biden's administration and has no interest in politics. Whether peolle would vote for Hunter is just a lame attempt to both sides completely different things.
People who think this way are either behaving irrationally or don’t understand electoral strategy. I will always vote for the better of the two candidates in the current system. If it was Trump vs Hitler, well damn, I guess I’m voting for Trump. It’s not an endorsement of anyone, it’s simply a matter of how to minimize the harm of the current system.
By the way, Trump supports genocide more than Biden, so if that’s your key issue, you should vote for Biden.
While I see your point, it hinges on voting for Hunter Biden in lieu of Trump. I can't say I would -- I know little of Hunter Biden's policy stances --, but I find it very far fetched to believe Hunter would get the nomination over another democratic politician, so it seems like the argument is pointless.
but I find it very far fetched to believe Hunter would get the nomination over another democratic politician
And Doc Brown was surprised Ronald Reagan ran. I was surprised Hillary came back in 2016 after 08, I was surprised trump was a candidate in 16, 20, and 24. I was surprised Biden was the nomine in 2020 when he'd been trying to win a presidential primary since 1988 and never made it to the general.
The party has been openly saying for like a decade they can not only rig the primary, they can just ignore results and there's nothing anyone can do to stop them
I'm just wondering what your think will change where all of a sudden candidates stop getting worse.
And why your line for Hunter is "smoked crack, lied about it, admitted it".
While Biden is literally funding and assisting with a genocide, while lying about it and breaking US and international law. And is committing the same human rights abuses at our border, that we all complained about when Trump did.
Like, c'mon man. It's just crack...
You think crack is worse than genocide and human rights abuses that are in violation of US and international law?
You know that movie was a work of fiction and that was a joke, right?
Reagan had already been heavily involved in politics by 1955. He wasn't running for office yet, but it wouldn't have been a surprise at all. The only thing Doc Brown would have been surprised about was that Reagan supported things like nuclear escalation and was so against labor unions during his presidency.
would you really not vote for him if he was the Dem nominee?
Absolutely. I prefer my lawmakers to not be convicted criminals.
Though, if your hypothetical had both candidates being convicted criminals, then I'd have to look closer at the alternatives, as well as examine how damaging the 2 criminals are likely to be going forward, shoukd they gain power.
I'm not willing to blame Biden for Netanyahu's crimes.
There is no president in my lifetime that would have treated Israel signifigantly less kindly than the current administration has.
Lesser of two evils, right?
Yes, actually. Trump absolutely would have continued sucking up to the Israeligovernment, rather than attempting to have the combatants negotiate a cease fire.
And if your choice was Trump or Biden? What a stupid hypothetical “Hunter or Joe”. Come on out and directly say you’ll support Trump. All your word salad is basically saying “vote for Trump” or “don’t bother voting because both sides”.
Because using felony convictions to punish people can easily be weaponized against minorities. They can also be ignored when it comes to rich white guys.
I don't think your examples work. Hillary Clinton was also previously a Senator and Secretary of State, so she had experience in national politics. Joe Biden was Vice President and a Senator so he also had decades of experience.
A state she never lived in, and is rife with political corruption at the state level. A seat that was always going to go blue, but didn't even have a primary?
NY state Dems are basically republicans.
And the SoS was an appointment.
Hillary won exactly one election in her life, and it was handed to her on a golden platter.
Joe Biden was Vice President and a Senator so he also had decades of experience.
Remember when that experience meant he could get republicans to support dem.policy?
That was the 2020 primary. And by January 2021 he was telling us it would be crazy to expect him to change a Dem senators mind so he wouldn't try.
Sooo much experience he's been trying to win the nomination for checks notes 32 years?
And the only reason he got it was about 5 candidates all dropped out less than 24 hours before Super Tuesday? After they'd spend millions on ads for Super Tuesday?
Currently republicans are supporting terrible candidates, have been for decades...
but expect Democrats to support terrible candidates?
We're currently running someone breaking US and international laws by providing munitions that are being used ina genocide...
Someone that even went around Congress to avoid a delay of just a couple days.
In my eyes, Hunter is the lesser of two evils when comparing him and his dad.
So I was hoping to understand why people say they'd never vote for a (recovered btw) crack addict.
Like, finally you all really think what Hunter did years ago is worse than what Joe is doing today?
Im not getting answers, just insults.
Which is disappointing, but not surprising anymore.
The right wings of both parties seem to have went off the deep end a long time ago. Which would be fine, except they were both driving the bus when they did it