7mo ago

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Some people will be miserable no matter who is running

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eyup. new directive is pushing the harris bad narrative now that project get joe to drop is complete.
- Sure would be nice if people realized they are being manipulated, but being we are a stubborn species, pointing it out just makes idiots dig in harder.
- It's not a narrative as much as it is a fact. Her approval numbers are pretty terrible. Not insurmountable, but not great.
  
  Her approval numbers are pretty terrible.
  Well, she is an uppity woman, after all.
  /s
  
  I know you're being sarcastic, but I worry that people take that attitude. Some not voting for her because she's a woman, and then her supporters taking the Hillary Clinton angle that any criticism must be misogyny. All that did was ignore legitimate criticism that pointed out her low approval and failure to speak to her constituents. In the end, Dem voters didn't turn out.
  
  There is legitimate criticism which is substantive and specific. And then there is the "I don't know what it is, but there's something about her I just don't like" which invariably and (to me at least) is quite obviously a gut reaction against strong-minded, intelligent and bold women.
  Hillary Clinton got both. I've yet to see any substantive criticism of Harris... it's all been in the latter vein. Like literally "she's just not likable".
  
  I don't have a criticism of her, but I do have concerns. My biggest concern are the people who won't vote for her based on her gender or race. As you said, they'll shroud it in ambiguous statements about just not liking her, but that'll be the reason for some people.
  As for me, she's not as centrist as Biden, which is nice, but not as progressive as I'd like to see. But I'll vote for whomever the nominee is because they're not Trump. Knowing I'd have to vote for Biden again was bothering me though, he's given his life to public service, but his time was done, too many concerns.
  
  My biggest concern are the people who won’t vote for her based on her gender or race.
  Agree with you broadly. Yet... this type of concern is exactly why we end up with candidates like Biden. I say at this point pedal to the metal, let's go all in and make it stick. For me she's progressive enough given that no electable candidate will be as progressive as I'd like.
  
  The fairest behaviour is one where a person's gender and race are irrelevant and all that counts are that person's actions.
  This is equally valid on the positive side and on the negative side: only people who are prejudiced will be celebrating of decrying her gender and/or race.
  
  The fairest behaviour
  Are you new here?
  
  It's funny that the technique of bating away valid criticism on somebody by claiming said criticism is relly an "-ism" is exactly the technique Zionists are using to bat away criticism of a Genocide so horrible that they have snipers activelly shooting children on the head when they're playing at home.
  If ethno-Fascists are using to justify child murder the very same argumentative techniques one uses to defend one's "chief", one might want to have a real hard think about why one feels the need to use the same discourse technique as child-murdering modern NAZIs rather than using truth and logic to defeat the criticism.
  
  Found one.
  
  Harris is my least favorite alternative and most risky but I'll happily campaign for her if that's who they decide.
  Trump sure is old.
- If you’re banking against the religious vote you’re setting up to lose
  
  The religious vote that keeps losing in deep red states on abortion?

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