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Fair point

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Serious question: What exactly is the issue here? If you do not fill the form out, it gets rejected. Isn't that the expected outcome?
- The point is that ADHD is an executive function disorder. There's a lot of inertia to overcome before starting a task for someone with this disorder. It's not like she didn't know it was urgent or important, that actually probably played right into why she couldn't do it
  
  That's true. While executive functions require training in order to develop at all. And that starts at the bare bone basics.
  If you are old enough to apply for disability stuff, you can find a way to get yourself to fill in the form. ADHD makes it hard to, not impossible.
  And if you truly struggle, ask someone for accountability, or to help you fill it out. Even if it has to be a stranger online. ADHD people tend to be creative, thrill seeking, out-of-the-box thinking, fast-track minded people right? They procrastinate more than average, but crank out loads of work right before the deadline. Make it work in your favor, as decrepid as the disability may be. ADHD is an explanation, not an excuse.
  
  OP already did reach out to someone for help. Thats what the disability claim is.
  Do you see how requiring an extra step of "asking for help" to complete the paperwork to "ask for help" starts to be overly burdensome when it's someone specifically asking for help with their executive disfunction?
  It's like requiring someone who doesn't speak English to fill out a form in English to enroll in an 'English as a second language' class.
  
  Which is why I suggested seeking help from someone to fill out the form.
  
  I am. I needed help and so asked friends and family for it. It took me 3/4 year longer to get my shit on track than it could have.
  
  I hope she doesn’t have to cook dinner.
  
  Why are you here?
  If you are just going to post stupid, negative comments that don't add to the conversation or is at least funny, then you shouldn't be on Lemmy at all.
  Add, don't subtract. Try to at least pretend you are a grownup.
  
  Why are you here?
  Because it hit /all and ableists can't help being assholes.
  
  ... Yeah, Uber eats is another way people with problems like this get taken advantage of. Weird that you feel the need to be snarky about it
  
  She people are just assholes. And not the good kind.
- I think the issue, although it's being raised in meme-style rather than with a straightforward argument, is that asking somebody with ADHD to fill out a long, complex form is as reasonable as asking somebody on crutches to sashay up the stairs to the tenth floor to file their claim.
- True of course, but ADHD can be associated with behaviors that make it very hard for someone afflicted to complete such an intimidating and important form. It's a bit of a catch 22.
- Peoples' point is it's basically like
  "Ah yes, I see you claim you lost the use of your legs. That's okay we've got you. Just ascend the 58 stairs to the main office to drop off your form and..."
  
  This happened to my wife a decade or so ago. She has cerebral palsy and struggles to walk. We arrive at the examination center responsible for assessing her needs for continued social welfare. The exam office was on the 4th floor and the lift didn't work. The building receptionist shrugged. We had to go through a lengthy appeal process after they claimed we never turned up for the appointment.
- Mental stuff needs an in-person evaluation. I know ADHD isn't necessarily this bad but stuff like PTSD, severe depression, and Bi-Polar absolutely suffer from the same problem. The system is set up to handle physical disabilities but not really mental ones.
  
  Mental stuff needs an in-person evaluation.
  Not having met me hasn't stopped them from denying me twice.
  
  Yeah, the system is fucked. You basically need to be paraplegic to get anything or be unlucky enough to have a specifically listed condition.

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