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Are you guys paied shills or what? Do you genuinely think she should have jumped off a bridge instead of being conscripted? Ethan and Hila have been super supportive of the plight of Palestinians and constantly speak out against isreal...
you could only get this severely misinformed by shills and racists so stop listening to whoever told you this shit
I don't think it's unreasonable to expect someone to be as brave as the young woman running at Taylor Swift fan Twitter account.
I don't know about you, but if a fascist government demanded I partake in ethnic cleansing, I would simply refuse.
Yeah bud foreign governments are paying us big time to disparage loser ass streamers on a forum with like 500 active members. I can't believe you caught us this is devastating.
Are you guys paied shills or what? Do you genuinely think she should have jumped off a bridge instead of being conscripted?
You can just not support the genocidal occupation. Rather than helping them, you can leave, you can do prison instead, or you can more actively oppose them through extralegal means.
And you don't need to sympathize with ethnic supremacist oppressors.
Ethan and Hila have been super supportive of the plight of Palestinians
Bullshit.
and constantly speak out against isreal...
They have been defending Israel, in fact, and becoming more openly Zionist.
Did you miss the part where they call Ramallah a terrorist city? Do you know how Israeli ethnic supremacists talk about Palestinians?
you could only get this severely misinformed by shills and racists so stop listening to whoever told you this shit
You can watch their own video where they say everything criticized in this one. The sourcing is not the mystery you're treating it as. Go become informed. No investigation, no right to speak.
Yes I'm paid by Soros, China, and your dad (but only on weekends)
Yes she should have fought against being conscripted. The proper response to a draft letter from the IDF is defecting to Hezbollah.
Cool, but can you under stand that maybe not every 18 year old will make the perfect decision? That like maybe going to jail for decades and maybe propaganda and the threat of never seeing your family again could possibility cloud your judgement?
And can you not see that she was traumatised by this decision and by going into the service? And can you not see that she had the bravery to see for herself what really happens on raids instead of just believing what you're told?
Have you not heard her talk about how horrible the settlements are? Have you not heard her calling what they're doing genocide?
How is it not obvious that they're AGAINST genocide?
I think that anyone who thinks they're pro-genocide has been exclusively exposed to propaganda or is racist...
fuck Israel and fuck your favorite internet podcast dopes. I do not care.
Do you genuinely think she should have jumped off a bridge instead of being conscripted?
Nobody was forcing her to join the genocide force, but even then, it was purely her initiative to join at least one raid that I'm aware of.
She is a very enthusiastic perpetrator of a genocide.
Ethan and Hila have been super supportive of the plight of Palestinians and constantly speak out against isreal...
Yeah, they are very supportive of continuing and worsening said plight.
you could only get this severely misinformed by shills and racists
Notably, you are shilling for racists, at least one of whom has personally and enthusiastically taken part in a genocide.
You can watch Ethan and Hila's video directly without the commentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytOl5hbTrCY
In her own words, she wasn't merely a disinterested conscript. She took the initiative to directly involve herself with the occupation and oppression of the West Bank.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Do you genuinely think she should have jumped off a bridge instead of being conscripted?
I mean yes that would have been preferable to what she actually did, but this is such dishonest framing since she could have literally just not done it. No bridges needed.
Oooh good thinking, she could have been tortured in jail for decades...
IDK what you said since it's not in the modlog for some reason so I'm gonna assume it was one of two things
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how dare you say fascist soldiers would be better off dead
easily
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but she had no choice!
The IDF is not going around shoving guns in people's faces and saying "get in the van, we're going to do genocide" it's a very mundane process and you can just say no. You'll spend some time in jail (time which as far as I'm aware is measured in months, not years) and then you're good to go. And that's if you can't come up with a legit excuse or fabricate some reason that the IDF will accept that you can't join the military
Furthermore, in her own words as others have pointed out, she had options to get out. She planned to get out if the randomly assigned job she requested to be moved to wasn't more exciting than the desk job she started with.
Fortunately for her, the job she requested was in fact more exciting, and she got to spend time literally occupying what she called a "terrorist city" and working directly for the top officer in charge of the military base there. But even that wasn't exciting enough for her, so she broke the rules at least once to go attend a raid on this "terrorist city" and personally participate in breaking into random people's homes, brutalizing them, stealing their belongings, and kidnapping them. All straight from her own mouth. She did this voluntarily against the orders given to her by the IDF I will remind you. Brutalizing Palestinians was a fun and exciting extralegal activity for her. According to her herself.
She forfeited any right to sympathy when she joined the IDF and she forfeited any right to being viewed as a human through her actions thereafter. It is a shame that no one shot her in the head while she was raiding innocent people's homes FOR FUN
I hope those who resist the nazis you cape for get to put you on pikes, you settler fuck.
Where do you see me advocating for settlements? Where do you see Ethan or Hila advocating for settlements?
Do you just slander everyone you come across or you have like some sort of evidence youd like to share?
I love how that's the bit you take offense at; what a self-report
Zionism is a settler-colonial ideology. If you live in the west, there is a more-than-50% chance you live in a nation that espouses settler-colonial ideology; and a 100% chance you live somewhere that has materially benefited from settler-colonialism. As for the streamers you're running defense for, Hila served an ideology of genocidal settlerdom, and Ethan is a good little collaborator at her jackboots.
Ergo.
EDIT: This peckerwood is really in my DMs right now whatabout-ing his little cracker-assed heart out tryna do anything to scrub the stink of being a settler off 'em-- eve to the point of trying to scapegoat China of all people. Really had the nerve to "yeah but watabout China????? What they did to Tibet was settling, wasn't it?!?!?!" Langley's not sending their best, ladies and gentlemen.
So you slandered me because I'm american?
slander /slăn′dər/
noun
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Oral communication of false and malicious statements that damage the reputation of another.
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A false and malicious statement or report about someone.
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A false tale or report maliciously uttered, tending to injure the reputation of another; the malicious utterance of defamatory reports; the dissemination of malicious tales or suggestions to the injury of another.
If you're Amerikan, then you live in the bowels of the single most brutal settler-colonial entity to exist in the modern era. "Settling" is not a once-and-done action; it is a constant state as long as you are on settled land. Explain to me how you think that's slander.
Better yet, https://readsettlers.org and get out of my inbox lmao
EDIT: This peckerwood is really in my DMs right now whatabout-ing his little cracker-assed heart out tryna do anything to scrub the stink of being a settler off 'em-- eve to the point of trying to scapegoat China of all people. Really had the nerve to "yeah but watabout China????? What they did to Tibet was settling, wasn't it?!?!?!" Langley's not sending their best, ladies and gentlemen.
So let me get this straight, I'm a settler because I live in the place I was born and you're suggesting that I settle another location to remedy the crimes of my forefathers?
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You can literally just watch the video "Hila From H3H3 Discusses Her Time In the Israeli Military" on the H3 Podcast Highlights channel. The video linked above is a reaction to it. Hila literally says in the video that she could've gotten out of the military.
Link to the original video: https://youtu.be/ytOl5hbTrCY
2:15 — Hila says, "And if I don't like the second one [referring to changing her job in the IDF], then I'll just find a way to get out of the army." (emphasis mine)
You can watch the video yourself to confirm that this is what she says, and that this is on the verified, official H3 Podcast Highlights channel.
So this is straight from the horse's mouth, as it were: she wouldn't need to jump off a bridge, she in fact knew at the time that she could've found a way out of military service if she wanted to, she knew this was an opportunity but she simply did not take it. She just says this outright in the video, on the official channel, publicly for all the world to see for nearly seven years now since that video was published.
Now speaking as someone from a country that also practices conscription, I hold people to the same standards regardless of whether they're from Scandinavia or the Levant: if you cannot find a way out of mandatory military service, and you risk imprisonment for refusing service, then do your time. Having moral principles means being willing to make sacrifices.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
That quote you have perfectly explains how she does not like being there... It sounds like she's considering the possibility of fleeing her country and never seeing her parents or family ever again at the age of 18 because its so awful.
but somehow you've framed it like she's proud of what's she's doing, and I want to know were you fed that narrative or did you actually think it up on your own?
You don't have to jump off a bridge, you can actually just not do it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youth_Against_Dictatorship