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sh.itjust.works Main Community @sh.itjust.works PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them] @hexbear.net 10 mo. ago

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Hey, new federated user from Hexbear here

Just curious how many of you are cool with this deeply racist image being the header for one of your comms

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Sorry, I'm not quite sure how a picture mocking a specific person for something other than race is racist, let alone deeply so.
- It's just the dumbasses from hexbear making up nonsense to defend their favorite dictator
  
  It's not even someone they like, they just use it for easy trolling just like in this thread.
  
  Edited to add: don't feed the trolls by responding to anyone from hexbear. Just use your Lemmy client's features to block the user or the instance. Connect on Android has great blocking features.
- when a majority white community mocks a chinese man by comparing his appearance to a yellow bear, it's a little weird
  
  The comparisons were first made in China, actually. The only reason we even know about the comparison is because he got so offended by them, and we keep doing it because he's upset by it. It's more about shape than colour, especially since Xi Jinping tends to wear trousers.
  
  Are bears a common racist stereotype for asians? I havent seen it
- Okay putting you down as being okay with it. Got it ty
  
  I'm okay with it because it's not racist. What is there in this picture to not be okay with?
  
  In what way is it racist? Is there a particular ethnicity which is commonly depicted as Winnie the Poo?
Just going to sum up the responses thus far
- Keep up the good work, Foucaults!
  
  It ain't easy, but it's an honest days work
The only times ive seen hexbear users show up is disingenuous trolling like this.
- Hence why they should be defederated from. The entire instance is just full of trolls and dictatorship defenders.
- But don't worry, the shit eating admins here are hard at work removing comments that insult the hextards
Also someone please tell this smuglord that his instance isn't federated with ours and we can't see or respond to his comments, lol
Yeah I guess it is racist to say a singular person defines an entire race, you should maybe try not being so racist
- I guess it would be weird to say that. Maybe you could show where I did in fact say that. In the meantime, I'll put you down on the pro-racism side
For context, the joke is that the authoritarian dictator of china has outlawed depictions of whiney the poo in relation to their leader after chinease people started saying he looked like the character.

You can go to jail for wearing a poo bear t-shirt. A children's cartoon is now an icon of resistance, which is wild.

This is no different than that LGBT Putin image that'll get you put in jail in russia.

The yellow skin is, in my opinion, kinda fucked though. I know that the vast majority of people on here using it don't mean it that way but the effect would be kept while not changing the skin colour. The ears and red shirt are enough. Again though, the people using it are not necessarily racist for doing so.

To pre-empt the enevitable user entirely disinterested in conversation trying to epicly own me as has been the entire post from OP, yes, I'm entirely ok with this. You can 'mark me down' as whatever you wish.

For the hexbear users (or others) who want a conversation, out of curiosity, does your issue extend to the existance of this community on our platform? Is the issue only with the yellow skin? Does this, and if so how, make the people using it racist or would you say a non-racist person would never use this?
- china has outlawed depictions of whiney the poo
  
  https://www.shanghaidisneyresort.com/en/entertainment/theme-park/characters-meet-pooh/
  
  That's actually a mislabeled image of Grinny the Goo, an unrelated character.
  
  ~~also thought of Winnie the Pooh with Chinese Characteristics~~
- the joke is that the authoritarian dictator of china has outlawed depictions of whiney the poo after chinease people started saying he looked like the character.
  
  Wow, that is a joke. It's not a very good joke. Who came up with it?
  
  (That literally never happened)
  
  Xi Jinping did https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-40627855
  
  Also if this is about asian racism why is japans prime minister not represented by a yellow character?
  
  People have been jailed for this
  
  Edit: better links. Radio Free Asia can't really be trusted
  
  https://www.axios.com/2020/01/23/china-arrests-university-minnesota-twitter
  
  https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/china-student-arrested-xi-jinping/
  
  https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-40627855
  
  For clarity, my first source: https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/tweets-01232020164342.html
- yes, I'm entirely ok with this. You can 'mark me down' as whatever you wish.
  
  Very well. I'll put you down as neutral on racism due to the nuanced take on the issue in your post
were fired
Ah, I see. So it's now considered "racist" to... checks notes have the ability to publicly disagree with the leader of your nation without risking imprisonment or execution.

Yeah, okay.

Try harder, and next time, try with less taste of boot. Authoritarians and their enablers are not welcome here.
"this guy looks like this cartoon character" isn't racist.

Mitch McConnell looks and sounds like droopy dog, that's not racist either.
- 🤣
We censoring political cartoons now?
Didn't the meme originate from Chinese social media lol? A bit of a reach
- Reposting this one again:
  
  "Things can undergo a transformation, just because the original usage might have been innocent. If something starts being used by white racists or western imperialists in a racist way, would ya look at that, it’s racist.
  
  Also, it’s covert racism. It gives people plausible deniability. Like you are doing now.
  
  And there are historical precedents of this kind of racism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Peril"
  
  Also reposting
  
  Could you demonstrate that transformation with other examples from here? Other asian people being compared to other yellow characters? Or has it remained specifically one person compared to one character?
fellow hexbear here, i find this post annoying, specious and pointless. if it helps.
- Damn, didn't expect to put a fellow Hexbear down on the pro-racism side but I guess thems the breaks
  
  12 day old acct
  
  “hello fellow hexbears”
I'm perfectly fine with anything that you makes you shit eaters upset
- Okay, I'll put you down for the pro-racism side. Noting here that being anti-communist is more important than being anti-racist
  
  Neither is important, and I don't give a singular shit what lies you make up about me
- being pro racism to own the evil stankies
Bears aren't a race.
- No
  
  Yes
- ✍
Hey hey hey look who we have here! Where's the party at my man? What drama are we getting into tonight?

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