Average GitHub PR

Was this taken from the Crowdstrike repo?

Was there even tests?
- Yup, and they're run on an estimated 8.5 million test machines
- Yeah, but I think apparently the tests that "could" have caught it relied on mocks which basically rendered it useless in those cases.

Who needs tests when you have users?

The testing environment is production!

-Crowdstrike
We work in protoduction.
I work in state government and we insist on building our own systems. This is too fucking true and why it’s funny.
- What do you mean building our own systems?
Technically there's no substitute for testing in production lol
Although ideally you'd want to test it beforehand...
- There are so many more, and better!, options than testing in prod, but they take time, money, and talent and ain't no company got time for that (for a business segment that "doesn't generate revenue")
Been microsofts strategy for how long?
- Probably too long. That was a philosophy I had at school and iirc the founders never finished school and started MS in a garage.

When the CI takes longer than 10 minutes

Envious. It averages 15-30 mins
- Are you like building a mobile app or have 100k tests or is it just super slow?
I used to have to use a CI pipeline at work that had over 40 jobs and 8 stages for checking some sql syntax and formatting and also a custom python ETL library that utilized pandas and constantly got OOM errors.
They didn’t write any unit tests because “we can just do that in the CI pipeline” and if you didn’t constantly pull breaking changes into your branch you would guarantee the pipeline would fail, but if you were lucky you only had to restart 30% of your jobs.
It was the most awful thing and killed developer productivity to the point people were leaving the team because it sucks to spend 40% of your time waiting for CI scripts to fail while you are being yelled at to deliver faster.

Who needs integration testing when we have users who will do it for us?!

Lol. I run an open-saas ecom and everything is done live. No one but me handling it. The customers must think they are tripping sometimes. Updates are rarely perfect the first push.