Newgrounds is considering adding activitypub support but is concerned about hosting fees for serving images to millions of people
Newgrounds is considering adding activitypub support but is concerned about hosting fees for serving images to millions of people
The creator of Newgrounds has considered adding ActivityPub support to join the fediverse but is worried it would make their hosting fees untenable by “serving files to millions of people on third party apps“. Can anyone with more knowledge on how this works help them? https://www.newgrounds.com/bb...
TIL the flash animation I made in 2004 is still available on Newgrounds.
Newgrounds is dead serious about preserving its content, even with the death of Flash. Ruffle, the Flash emulator, was created by a former employee and Newgrounds is a major sponsor of the project. The most important movies have been converted to video as well.
When Newgrounds adopted high-resolution thumbnails about a decade and a half ago, there was a big volunteer campaign to recreate thumbnails for the entire back catalogue of the portal.
Thanks to Ruffle, people can and are still submitting Flash content to the portal, in addition to web-friendly content!
yo, this is straight fire
Omg mine too (too embarrassing to share).
I forgot how much more patient with pacing we all used to be back in the 00s. Just trusting that the video would go somewhere and there'd be a payoff.
Looking at some of the popular videos from back then, people these days would just scroll away because nothing hooked their attention quickly enough. Myself included. We've been trained to expect such quick payoff 😭.
Fuck, now I'ma have to go check on my old deviantart account.
Oh my god. I can't get the song out of my head now! Sweet Jesus what have you done to me?!
Love it lol. That banana phone song was a blast from the past.
Its jot newgrounds if it doesn't end in violence ❤️
Newgrounds would be awesome in the Fediverse tbh, would bring so much content (beyond politics and news).
Image hosting seems to be super problematic with activity pub, especially with something pf Newgrounds' size. I'm super invested in this, can't wait to see where it'll go.
With Tumblr joining ActivityPub soon enough™ we're already going to see the impact on hosting stuff like that. If I were Newgrounds, I'd wait for Tumblr to switch over and see how they do it.
TIL Newgrounds still exists.
Not only does it still exist, newgrounds is unique in that it is a long-running website from the early days that is still being run by the same person (never bought out or sold), still has no ads (despite funding issues), still has the same basic focus, still hosting the same content, and is still more or less exactly the same despite some UI changes.
Granted part of that is there hasn't been any real pressure on it, but still.
Genuinely, it is the kind of thing that I would want to put behind glass, because it is an abnormality in this wasteland we call the internet. It's this beautiful little corner that has been allowed to remain as it is, unmolested by the terrible bullshit around it.
It's feels like it's the only site where the algorithm doesn't kill animators.
Shit, am I about to become a newgrounds user again after like 15 years?
Not to mention that fediverse software still loves to occasionally hug of death a server when you post links, heh.
(Post federates to lots of servers, and lots of servers pull images/previews all at more or less once.)
Quick, someone post "Cascade" from Homestuck and bring down the entire fediverse.
Perhaps for images they'd have to federate just the text and a small thumbnail, and then just the people interested would click through. I wonder if that'd be enough.
but is concerned about hosting fees for serving images to millions of people
People stopped caring about image bandwidth decades ago. Try wrangling a video-hosting problem, like PeerTube does.
So we need better federated hosting...
I'd love to be able to "seed" the fediverse through p2p hosting of some sort. I'd set aside 1 TB of storage and 20 MB/s for that.
It's unfortunate that it's so slow, but IPFS would make a lot of sense for Fediverse content, assuming servers would also become IPFS nodes and bother to pin content posted in their servers.
Unfortunately, very few apps implement the protocol, even fewer implement it efficiently, and it can take seconds per file to resolve new content. On the upside, you'd get a peertube-like system that'd take care of Fediverse hosting with relative ease of development.
The cryptocurrency bros managed to get IPFS working for them, maybe we should give it a shot too.
Various services have the capability to fetch and copy hosted content (Mastodon, Lemmy, many more) but that capability is often restricted for larger files because those free servers don't want to pay the massive bill for hosting video. I bet it's also why Bluesky only recently added video support.
The problem isn't necessarily the federated hosting, but picking who pays the bill. Everyone wants to host fancy text messages, but nobody wants to pay for large files.
I’d donate a few dollars a month. Newgrounds is a great content creation space. I still play games there from time to time. The Mario 63 game is off the wall. Dead Estate is also a fantastic retro style shooter like the ones I remember from my childhood. I think places like this need to survive.
Hell Yeah, Newgrounds is blocked in my country. But if they added Activity Pub it will solve the problem for me.
What country blocks new grounds of all things?
India
It would just federate comments I think, you'd still need to go to the site for the media
"Millions of people" if only...
Mastodon has a couple million ADUs
Are you sure about that? Joinmastodon indicates 819k MAU, would you have a source you can share ?
The Problems of Tomorrow, Today!
Oh man, I miss that shit so much heh heh
so like not share the videos peertube style? just the art section of the site?
Can't they just not allow anyone on their server? Like read-only while people talk about it from other servers?
Reading still requires distributing media
I missing the hamsters and dancing Jesus.
Omg that would be peak 🥹
Edit: autocorrect :/