Resolved: Was banned for 3 days from News seemingly for no reason, no message, nothing just found it scrolling through the modlog
Resolved: Was banned for 3 days from News seemingly for no reason, no message, nothing just found it scrolling through the modlog
Edit: @Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com Contacted the moderator who did it on my behalf who admitted that this was a mistake, he sends his apologies. This incident though does highlight though the need for ban notifications as well as the need for a modmail system to contact community and site moderators.
I have left the post up with the original contents bellow as I feel it would be wrong to delete the post and rob people of the valuable information it contains, both in the post itself and in the comment section.
I messaged a mod from the community, not sure if that was the one who did it but this was weird. Not sure if it's power-tripping probably a mistake but it's certainly weird and seems like a knee jerk reaction since I didn't have activity in those last 10 days (I checked for votes too). Also no other bans in the modlog for "sock puppet account" so I don't even know why I would be singled out.
Why would someone think I was a sock puppet account? Because I have multiple accounts on different instances? Really weird...
Account is @Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world, I didn't post from that account since I try to keep each account on each separate instance (helps prevent accidental vote manipulation).
I messaged a mod from the community, not sure if that was the one who did it but this was weird.
Lemmy really needs a modmail function. Playing mod roulette when asking questions is a fucking pain.
I agree, this is really stupid having to message mods individually. @dessalines@lemmy.ml (maybe it was nutomic, I don't really remember right now) says it's because they don't want Lemmy to be a messaging platform, that mods should use external tools. I disagree. We need modmail and adminmail functions native to Lemmy, not needing to use funky bots or external tools.
We also need for bans to notify the people they're given to, otherwise it's as bad as shadowbans. I could've probably reached out about this days ago but I didn't even know it had happened, I don't look myself up in the modlog, I was looking to see if an unrelated incident had been actioned. Who knows when I would've found out if I hadn't been combing the modlog, weeks, months, would I have ever?
I might work on this. My implementation would be a simple backend route that simply messages all of the mods in a community (maybe with a [modmail] prefix as an indicator) Should be fairly simple. Like a bulk PM.
Modmail is much more of a gamble because you don't know if you potentially get the abusive mod on the other end, claiming to speak for the whole team.
Maybe unlike Reddit don't allow Mods to hide their responses to the user. That way if they are abusive or unfair user can take that and go snitch to the admins.
It should connect you to whoever took the action. If you have relevant discussion or protest or clarification you should be able to get straight to the source.
If you get banned from an instance, this won’t help. They delete the account outright and all its posts and founded communities.
I got banned individually from every single community on an instance without a single notification. The reason given in the modlog was one word "lib".
gotta be .ml?
Midwest.social
It was an instance ban, I guess they did it because they do it for most instance bans because people who are instance banned can still interact with the community on other instances. Which to be fair, is a problem with how site bans are currently implemented in Lemmy still is a very weird and cryptic reason to ban someone though. Are Midwest.social right wing? They don't say they are right-wing but I know many self-proclaimed leftists who are actually right wing so it wouldn't surprise me.
IDK what they are. I don't even know what I said that got me banned, because I was never notified. I've only ever interacted with the community through their posts in the Everything feed. I'd say based on the overreaction, and the reason given, that the particular mod who banned me is right-wing, and power-tripping. I'm occasionally rude, and rarely serious, so it's possible I said something ban worthy, but I doubt it.
Starting with 0.19.5, site bans also automatically create community bans from that instance's local communities.
Is that actually a native lemmy feature? I think some servers do it as a bot to clear content and prevent interaction but unless I understand correctly the issue of handling users interacting with local communities after receiving a site ban hasn't yet been addressed. It's been proposed here to add a table to federate site bans to communities but that seemingly hasn't been touched or implemented yet.
I'm wondering if it was just because you have alts? But it's not against any rules to have alts afaik so long as you're not doing vote manipulation etc. And yours are clearly identifiable which is another point in your favour here. If you want me to reach out to the mod who banned you on your behalf, just let me know. They might not answer me, but it's maybe worth a shot.
I think that could be helpful, I did also send a message to @kersploosh@lemmy.world to hopefully get a lemmy.world admin response but I suppose you messaging the mod couldn't hurt. Maybe he might answer and clear things up quicker that way.
News@lemmy.world or news@lemmy.ml? The 2 are not equal and Lemmy.ml can go defed themselves. Not as racist as hexbear but they will ban you for attacking fascists too. The instance matters.
LW based on another comment
Instance is Lemmy.world, I linked directly to the account's page on the instance.
News comm going really crazy lately. Especially with having sudden new rules like you can't question mod actions in comments or ask why something was removed
We also have a rule that you cannot use an alt account to evade a temporary ban, which you did.
