First, the capitol/Reichstagg will be set on fire, and radical left democrat enemies within will have to be exterminated from power. Then everything else will happen.
FYI: Nazis moved from Carbon-monoxide to Zyclon-B because they utilized motors to produce the CO gas before, which disturbed the neighbors due to noise.
It should be pointed out that had the Holocaust and WWII not happened, Nazi Germany was still an unmitigated nightmare that no one but the Nazis themselves were enjoying very much. There were and are plenty of authoritarian and fascist states where genocides don't happen, but which are nevertheless hell on earth for everyone who's not a functionary of the state.
So even if you think it's hyperbole to worry about extermination camps in the US, there's absolutely nothing hyperbolic about a dystopian state coming into existence in which dissent and difference are crimes. Donald Trump and his band of dead-eyed sadists like Stephen Miller will do whatever they can in a second Trump term to bring such a state to you.
Also notable is the fact that Hitler managed to gain power with only about 35 percent of the popular vote. Because regular conservatives formed a coalition with him, convinced they would be able to control and use him. Instead he used them.
Also, he then needed a false flag operation to be able to declare martial law - gaining the same kind of absolute power that the US president now has automatically thanks to the Supreme Court.
“It happened, therefore it can happen again.” – Primo Levi
Saw this written on a plaque at the Holocaust memorial in Berlin and it really gave me pause, reflecting on what is happening all around the world right now.
"It keeps happening, therefore it can happen again."
It covers so much bad shit we as (groups of) humans do.
Exterminating the next village over bcs they like to wear green instead of yellow hats is the easiest thing to spark amongst the common, easily manipulated folk.
And it keeps happening bcs it (mass manipulation for whatever irrelevant reason) can be monetised & power can be gained in the precess (beyond from just literal pillaging and enslavement).
USA has always been an ambivalent place, both committed to equality and liberty in an idealized manner and also committed to perpetuating inequality, particularly across racial, ethnic and religious lines. A child of the 1970s I like the version of America I was taught about in-between Saturday morning cartoons via School House Rock. No more kings!
Edit: before anyone else points it out, the video depicts racism against native americans and the colonists were crazy religious zealots. But it's also about rejection of the English king. So all the ambivalence seems to be there.
Cute, but also naive and highly revisionist. The ideals behind it are nice but they were never fully realized or even well thought out, particularly for certain groups or people seen as lesser.
In particular, the substitution of a president for a king was, I think, one of the most naive and dangerous mistakes in early US history. Did they really think calling him something different would change the dynamics? The entire existence of Trump can be traced back to this decision.
We're all humans, nationality aside. Good ideas. Bad ideas. Such ideology can and has propagated in pretty much every corner of the world and at varying times in history in some respect.
True. The Nazi concentration camps were not constructed for Jews, but political dissidents. They were created to detain people that did not succumb to gleichschaltung, coordination or alignment with the Nazi agenda.
"I think Trump has been conditioning Americans since 2015 to see violence as something justified in certain cases and even patriotic.
He's been conditioning them to see other Americans as enemies, as diseased, as dirty. And what we have to remember is that authoritarians might initially target one group, and he's been talking mostly about immigrants. But he's also calling the enemy within the political opposition.
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And this is part of an authoritarian projection mechanism. I call it the upside-down world of authoritarianism, where, ever since Mussolini, he was the first to call democrats the real tyrants and fascism was going to be freedom. Fascism was going to make Italy great again. That was a slogan, as was drain the swamp. Trump took that from Mussolini as well."
You're right. He came to speak to the police in my county, which has a bad reputation already, and
Trump said the administration is removing these gang members from the United States "but we'd like to get them out a lot faster and when you see ... these thugs being thrown into the back of the paddy wagon, you just see them thrown in rough, I said, 'Please don't be too nice.'"
I’ve been saying this since last year to my family members on the other side of the political spectrum (some MAGA, some moderate), and I feel like I’ve been saying it til I get blue in the face, but it definitely feels like the MAGA wing of the Republican Party wants to go back to this era of German history ASAP.
that would be no different than the angry oranges tactics. id leave em to stew in their own juices for a while but remain wary and thump em if they try anything
I grew up with the whole JW things crammed down my throat before I, as a teenager, finally snapped at my abusive, alcoholic mother and told her off. My dad backed me up fortunately. I hate that cult. But I cannot condone even sending my worst enemies to a fucking concentration camp.
They should, however, be investigated and arrested on a traditional, case-by-case basis. Most of those people are just idiots who really reject modern reality because real life is hard. The point is though, you can't just paint a whole group as evil and round them up. It's important to find the ones actually doing bad things and run their lives in particular.
No, America the Beautiful would never force citizens of foreign descent into camps! Certainly not on account of racism! And not in the hundreds of thousands!
That's too much, even for Jehovah's witnesses. JW's deserve their freedom just as anyone else. But I should add, there should be a law that allows one to legally hose them down with cold garden water if they come to your house to bother you. If they come and you like it, all good. But if they come and I specifically tell them never to bother me again, they better write that somewhere cuz next time they get a legal watering. It would make a lot of people get a renewed sense of home ownership lol. But I mean, the JW's could just stop pestering people.
Just asking for my pace to not be invaded. That's all. Also making light of something awful 😉. But that's what comedians do. I'm not a comedian but sometimes I wish I was. Then things would make more sense. Like why would the US help Israel basically pulverize Palestine? Why didn't the US instead help Ukraine by eliminating putin yet? So I can't change any of this. I can vote Democrat and I did, but there wasn't an entry on there that specifically asked "would you want us to stop arming Israel?". We got no voice in the matter.....but we got sarcasm, parody, and comedy! Neither thing is illegal yet.
don't look around lemmy (or the rest of the fediverse), if somehow jews had escaped or survived auschitz, bergen-belsen, or so many other of the work/death camps like so many Israelis did, most of the people here would call them dirty murderous zionist colonizers who should go back to germany and poland, and not think twice about it
it's crazy seeing so many who defend the right to be Islamist terrorists from Ankara to Khartoum to Kuala Lumpur, regardless of attacking and holding the free world en thrall to their evil for decades now, but it's the jews who are the problem in wanting to live, thrive and defend themselves in their native homeland.
it's always the jews, isn't it
arabs are from arabia, jews are from judea. enjoy your hypocritical horrified cosplay memes.
Hey, mod here. I get your views, but the way you expressed them might break a rule (rule 1). The way you wrote it can easily be taken that you think all Muslims are terrorists.
it’s crazy seeing so many who defend the Muslims right to be Islamist terrorists
I'd rather not silence your voice, so could you modify that so it doesn't read that way. The rest is completely fine.
It was also illegal to point out the evil and danger in the Nazi party in 1933, jews were jailed and murdered for doing just that. think about that before you silence anyone.
I don't think Jews or Muslims are evil regardless of WW2, but I do think that both are terrible to each other. That's right, both sides are bad. Now what.