Programmers aren’t necessarily engineers tho, software engineers are, but not all programmers are software engineers. Even then, lots of people are trained as SEs and then just end up programmers.
"Software engineers aren't real engineers because they don't work on physical engines."
-An absolute dumbass telling me this to my face years ago while literally designing a software solution for (hardware) engineers on a manufacturing line
What’s the difference?
Programming is just one part of the whole process of creating software. There's more than just writing code. There's also planning, design, architecture, testing, deployment, maintenance, etc. All that is engineering. Unsurprisingly, people with software engineering training tend to have a more complete idea as to what goes into it all.
Calling yourself "engineer" impresses more people and gets you higher wages.
Let’s say I’m a carpenter, and occasionally I open up a cad program and draw up a wrench or lathe chuck and have it cut out of sheet steel. Yes, I did some engineering but I’m not really an engineer.
Likewise let’s say I’m an artist. Maybe I write code now and then to program my automatic paint mixer or whatever.
Code to build something: engineer
Code to use something: programmer
To me, if you wrote/maintain/design a scaled system with uptime and latency requirements, that's a software engineer.
If you're laying out buttons and implementing business logic, you're a programmer. (This was me).
The title of Engineer is heavily protected in some countries. You'd get the title of Developer or Analyst or something along those lines.
Meanwhile ddg search suggestions:
- Programmers are also human
- Programmers are wizards
Programmers are wizards
Yes. Thanks for noticing, DDG.
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Puts on my robe and wizard's hat.
I’m the mightiest sorcerer of the lands.
easily scared
Patrick:
ᕼᴼ𝙤ᴼ𝐨 Visual Basic for Applications
oᴼoᵒDim i, j As Integer... tired of being stereotyped
I like to call myself a software aviator since were just making stuff up
... but they'll soon be back, and in greater numbers.
