It's so funny to see XiaoHongShu discover how much westerners have been propagandised

me, an american with a fucking literal credit score that until recently included medical debt: [lmao those chinese are so authoritarian]

I’ve been denied renting an apartment because of my credit score, lol. [dastardly chinese authoritarians]
I've been skipped over on jobs due to credit score.

Saw a post on there yesteraday where someone couldn't believe some of us work 2 jobs just to be able to afford rent and food. I really hope this opens a lot of westerners eyes to to what is and isn't propaganda.

I never understood what is bad about "working 2 jobs". (I don't live in the US.) Is two 20 hour jobs not the same as one 40 hour job?
- Two 20 hour jobs is optimistic. Part-time is considered anything under 35 hours a week. It's much more likely you're going to be stuck trying to squeeze two 30 hour jobs into a single week because neither job is going to consider the schedule of the other and you're going to be caught in between. And as others have said, neither jobs are going to give you the benefits a 40 hour job should be giving you, but are often screwing you out of because, in the US, pretty much nothing but cheap healthcare is guaranteed for 40 hours now.
- It’s rarely two 9-5 M-F jobs that add up to 40 hours a week.
  It’s usually a combination of a primary job that is just below the threshold of full time and therefore doesn’t qualify for basic benefits like health insurance, paid time off, or retirement <32 hours.
  Usually the second job is in the evening and weekends. Service jobs, retail, etc. Often the schedule varies wildly and changes often.
  Typically both jobs are paid hourly and can end at any time.
  A lot of people work much more than 40 hours per week, but don’t have the security of a full time, salaried job.
- Most places don't offer benefits under 36-40 hours, including 401k, IRA, other retirement options. Most part time jobs are lower pay. And also if you are driving 15-30 minutes to either job, that ends up being like 2 hours total drive time since we are a car congestion-centric culture. Working multiple jobs just to get by is predatory and aimed at the extremely poor people.
- I think there are benefits when you work a 40 hour job, which you don't get when you work 2 20 hour jobs.
  Edit, here is a random website I found that says the same
  Edit 2: not to mention I think its likely that 20 hour jobs are paid worse than 40 hour
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Even trying to see things from a lib perspective the data harvesting argument makes no sense to me. If you're worried about your data ending up in the hands of someone who could use it against you, a social media app from a somewhat hostile foreign country is way safer than local social media that sells all it's data to the state that actually has power over you.
- Yeah I hear this argument from libs all the time: "it's a natsec nightmare how an enemy government has planted sensors all over the inside of people's homes"
  But why? Why does it matter at all that China can know what American people are doing in their homes, what they're interested in, etc? Is it for military reasons? Are you worried that Chinese robots are gonna land and have a floor plan of every tiktok user's house? Or are you worried because knowing a lot about American people means they can market their products better? Like seriously how does it affect natsec, I can only really imagine ways in which it affects commerce and industry but not natsec. And as far as commerce goes, who cares?
Also the app isn't Han centric at all - I'm getting tons of Mongol content on the default feed
- Type "Uyghur" into the search, I dare you. The results are truly horrifying. People sharing fashion, food, and music from their culture. Don't they know they're being enslaved? That they're living in The Truman Show?

Honestly a really funny outcome to the Tik Tok ban and generally a very positive one.

american propaganda machine: "Chinese people are BRAINWASHED to LOATHE everything about America and ALL aspects of us and our lives"

xiaohongshu:

"hello american send picture of cat ☺️☺️"

"you're saying you need a loan just to go to college, and the rich buy their way in? how bad are these loans you speak of? 😧"

"welcome foreigner pls pay cat tax 😊"

"medical treatment is really very difficult for many of you? i heard some things were expensive there but i had no idea it was that bad, i'm sorry 😞"

Genuinely terrifying to the Western propagandists, westerners realizing that Chinese are...normal human beings who empathize with them
- already seen a few people claiming the chinese users are "bots created by the CCP," the propaganda runs DEEP

What... God dammit is this fr? How is something so easy to check Such a widespread idea?

Honestly, it's not so easy to check, because a lot of people have no idea how many "reliable sources" will repeat US State Dept propaganda uncritically.
- I think I worded that weirdly. I was asking genuinely, I had thought social credit was just a thing and was surprised something so big could be/was a lie. I too am uninformed.
- Wikipedia does a pretty good job. Unfortunately, we were trained by our teachers to not trust Wikipedia so-
Western sources refuse to report on the truth, and any non-western source is automatically dismissed as biased disinformation propaganda etc
Can't counter a narrative if no accepted sources ever differ
- As an educated libeal, I read things from outside my political bubble - to stay educated. This includes my home countrys leading left liberal newspaper, my countrys leading centrist newspaper and, of course, my countrys version of "Der Stürmer"

My experience with 小红书 is a mixed bag. For the most part, folks over there are insanely fucking cool, but also many of them treat their pets... quite roughly, and the commenters (with China IPs) defend it saying how you need to beat someone to teach them.

Back in my day we used to have a social credit score. Of course we just called it a "reputation".

- Respect++;

I think it’s safer to assume the whole of the internet are bots.

Does that include you or is it just everyone else that’s not a real person?
- No. I am real American person, from the great oblast of Texas, California. I like cats and baking breads. Want to friendship with me? UWU 🫶