Having to go through your steward instead of boss is a perk not a negative
That was my thought too. Managers are there to control things for the capitalists. Stewards to advocate for the workers.
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No guarantee on pay, benefits, or work rules applies more to work without union than with union.
There is something about this that just feels ... lazy. Unsurprisingly, I suspect that whoever got tasked with making this wasn't exactly bought into the project.
It’s not meant to be overly communicative. It’s meant to target the people who are either on the fence, or hear talk in the break room, but filling them with just the right amount of disinformation. Specifically targeting the people who “don’t want someone else taking their hard earned money” without realizing they would make more than the union due requires by working in a union shop. That’s why they’re using simple language and conveying a monetary cost. They don’t want to put on their “unions fight for more labor to lessen the load” and “unions fight for more than just pay, including some of the best benefits in any career.”
In marketing and propaganda less is more.
Also, we gain more from understanding why the tactics have been effective than from dismissing them.
The tactics have been effective, so even while there may be an ironic appeal in characterizing them as "lazy", the description is not particularly accurate.
It's like some director asked a manager to ask a PM to ask chatGPT to ask dall-e to make a poster, and after 3 weeks of effort, managed to get the thing to spit this out.
This should be illegal and arguably is, shame we only have two parties in the US, and they're both filthy capitalists.
When I worked at Walmart, they have an orientation that last about 4 hours, it's mostly paperwork, but they made us watch an hour 'documentary' about how bad unions are for our country
I like how the figures look like they're desperately trying to come up with some reason why unions are bad.
No guarantees on pay, benefits, or work rules
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Sounds like Amazon describing themselves.
Projection is a very popular far-right propaganda tactic.
Well yeah, without unions you are guaranteed to be paid less, less benefits and more restrictive rules.
With unions there's a negotiation.
No guarantees, just overwhelming historic precedent, and common sense conjecture.
No guarantees though, because unions are too weak and pathetic to provide the same unequivocal guarantees that we expect in every other aspect of our lives.
In the same way that your lease doesn't "guarantee" that your landlord will fix the leaking kitchen sink, this is technically true. Which is how they get away with spreading this nonsense.
Nevermind that having that legal contract gives you the only leverage you could possibly hope to have when you take the landlord to court. Same leverage that a union contract gives you over the corporation you work for.
Here in Sweden we have a tenants union. If your landlord is being obstinate, submitting a form with the tenants union's logo on it as well as a case number will generally get the landlord's arse in gear. Should that fail, the union will provide legal counsel and even representation, free of charge.
I pay $7USD a month to be part of the tenant union, and $20USD a month for my workers union.
My previous landlord was scum, and I made ample use of the tenant union in that period. At one point my landlord reimbursed me $950, in addition to finally getting around and fixing various issues they had to fix. I definitely feel like I've gotten my money's worth from it.
If they don’t want you to form an union, you definitely should.
Isn’t this kind of stuff illegal?
Usually not. You can't union bust but you can advocate for your position. Plus Amazon has fuck you money, they will ask for forgiveness not permission for shit like this.
About 15 years ago I was promoted to a dept manager position at Walmart. They rented out a conference room at a nearby hotel and had this whole anti union training. I really didn't think much of it at the time being as young as I was... but it was pretty much just like this poster. Telling us to report if we seen or heard any talk of organization of a union. Kind of shitty of a thing for a company to do now that I looks back on this.
And to think, the amount they spend indoctrinating young managers across the country each year could easily cover the union demands.
I forgot that Amazon paid so well with good benefits, silly me thought people were pissing in bottles and fear of constant reprisals and firings for not meeting quotas. Amazon, explain to me how your process is better?
Hmm.. That is the idea of a union to have guarantees on benefits, work and rules. That is called a contract.
In my job a union would make zero sense but for many jobs they make perfect sense for that reason alone. The contract.
My company can change any of the benefits at will. Normally they change them for the better but they can change them at any time with no input from me.
A contract prevents that.
There are no jobs where unions make zero sense.
It's not just about the contract, but also the ability to better negotiate a contract through collective bargaining. Not to mention the general benefit of a community that you know has your back.
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It would make zero sense.
I’m paid a base salary which based on a formula is the same as everyone else’s. I also get commissions. There is zero reason to unionize as I wouldn’t get anything better from the deal.
If I worked in a non-sales job. I’d see a benefit. If I worked as a developer, or support, etc.
Sales is treated extremely well as long as you prform
The main purpose of a union is not simply to hold the company to terms it had agreed.
Unions are the vehicle for workers to negotiate.
Having a contract is not a meaningful reason not to be organized.
Hmm… That is the idea of a union to have guarantees on benefits, work and rules. That is called a contract.
That's a very simplistic view on what a union does.
If I were to lose my job tomorrow, I'd only get a portion of my income after taxes covered by public income insurance. The union covers up to the rest, meaning I won't have any noticeable loss of income for I believe six months, at which point it goes down to 80% of my income prior to my unemployment.
I also don't have to bother negotiating my salary with my employer, unless I personally chose to do so. And should my employer for whatever reason decide to sacrifice me to cover up for some blunder, then the union will deal support me through it, offer legal advice, and even representation.
That's still not everything a union does.
My thoughts exactly! A good contract has all of those things in writing. Shitty contracts do exist however so perhaps that's their angle there.
sounds like they are trying to confuse people on what a contract does do.
My dad was a UAW for most of his life. While i said my job doesn't make sense to unionize, an autoworker needs to be in a union. They have a lot of time where they're not paid while the factory is shutdown. I have to say they way they can the company shows why the companies have issues.
They would work OT like crazy and build lots of cars then have so many cars they would have to furlough the plant for two months. Just stupid shit like that.
