1d ago

Donald Trump impeachment proceedings launched

www.newsweek.com

2d ago

Assert Good: Day 16. Every 6 hours on every social media people should front-page / top hashtag, "Please Vote Out Donald Trump", "Impeach Donald Trump", because he trusts Russia + Putin, bad faiths

www.newsweek.com /donald-trump-impeachment-moves-forward-2071967

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Impeach him to CECOT

- Littering and... Inciting an insurrection

Impeaching the president while his party holds every office is like asking a football team to vote on their own penalty calls. Flag on the play! The referee is asking the violating team ... no, they all agree that no penalty has taken place, the game resumes.
- Especially when Republicans are traitors to the country and are collaborators to 47's crimes.
  This country is finished.
- Well, as hopeless as it is, forcing votes like this has two effects
  Forces the House to all go on record for/against it. I think Trump and the GOP have pissed off enough of their own base to hurt them in mid-terms. I hope so, at least.
  Takes time off their "do all the evil" clock. If they have to go through the motions to vote on stuff like this, it's less time they have to do damage elsewhere.
  Will it succeed? Almost certainly not But it's not a useless thing, either.
  
  You have something here. MAGA does not like this Air Farce One gift. The corruption is obvious, even to the childlike idiot minds of the street level MAGAts. He could be impeached for it because he is bypassing congress (again) as he needs permission to accept such a gift to the USA ... nevermind that it's a gaudy gold jet that he gets to keep.
  
  I think Trump and the GOP have pissed off enough of their own base to hurt them in mid-terms.
  Just to be clear: you're talking about the base that has been though all the criminal trials (and convictions), the global embarrassment, the fascism, the attempted coup, the racism, the sexism, etc.
  ...and still reelected it?
  
  Bring more and faster changes against democracy to prevent this in the future. You barricade yourself further and further until even riots are no longer possible. How can you have your head so damn deep in the sand. Riots are the only thing that can help! Trump's head on a pike

The real reason other Dems are mad (calling it "selfish") is because the party probably had a plan for a big showy impeachment closer to the election, especially one that would be ongoing on election day. It's exactly the kind of useless theater they excel at. These people put it out now way too early just to boost their own profiles.

Oh no! Hasn’t he been impeached twice already? Like, what other conclusion can society draw but “impeachment is entirely theatre”?
- Congress has an obligation to impeach presidents that break the law. Its like a cop should still arrest a criminal even if the mob boss can get them off and back on the street in hours.
  
  Or what? What happens if congress doesn't remove him? There is zero reason for the Republicans to go along with this since Trump is giving them everything they want
- Oh well, better not do anything at all then. Clown.
  
  Clown?! How dare you!
  I’m not saying don’t do anything. I’m saying impeachment is theatre to appease people like you who apparently still believe it’s worth the time and effort of people who could otherwise be perusing actual solutions but won’t because, since it’s still not obvious, neither left nor right gives quite enough of a fuck about you to bother. Yet, anyway.
  
  So this is going to remove him from power?
  It's going to put him in prison?
  It's going to stop or impede him in any capacity?
  We know what the answer to all of those are, so why waste time doing things that don't help at all?
  I want the people who are supposed to fight back to fight back in ways that actually matter and effect the situation.
  Clown
- I mean it's pretty much all they an do unless Americans want to exercise their 2nd Amendment right as it was intended.
- Put him in a bigger peach this time so he can't get out
  
  I think you’re mistaking it for inpeachment.
- Someday the public will realise that impeachment isn't the actual removal of someone from office, and in fact (AFAIK) there really isn't a mechanism in place to do that other than shaming them till they quit of their own accord or imprisonment (and technically they could still perform their job from a cell)
  
  The House can impeach and the Senate takes that impeachment and decides if to remove from office. So there is a mechanism, but it doesn't work so well when one major party is so far up the presidents ass they would never vote to remove
  We do need another failsafe mechanism, perhaps a way for the people to remove a president from office

Republicans in Congress are traitors to the United States of America, so this won't go anywhere. Still worth getting on the books though.
- Exactly right. It's like expecting the Nazi party to convict Hitler.
  Republicans are traitors to the Republic.

And it will mean exactly nothing. Just like the last two? three? times.
- true enough. In a way I prefer futile attempts being made than nothing at all though.

Incoming: all Republicans and at least 2/3 of Democrats vote not to impeach.
The democrats will yet again shoot themselves in the foot with this one especially if they vote not to impeach. It sends a clear signal that everything the administration is doing is Totally Cool and Legal™©®
- All according to plan

Remind me again how well that worked last time.
- Would you rather they never try and be fully complacent with this?
  
  I would rather they try something that actually has a chance of working.

However, few Democrats have voiced support for impeaching Trump since he returned to office in January since measures are unlikely to go anywhere with Republicans in control of both the House and Senate. Trump was impeached twice during his first term in office, but was acquitted by the Senate in both cases.
They aren’t called “Do Nothing Democrats” for no reason.
- I mean they physically can't do anything right now, that's what happens when you remove them from every lever of power and Republicans are left to police themselves.
  
  I must be imagining something other than what actually happened every time republicans were in the minority. Because I swear they had done anything and everything to prevent any sort of progressive legislation, perpetuated elections being compromised without basis, and controlled their narrative past the storming of the capitol, while not being in the majority. Or did I dream all that?

Democrats, December 2019: "Impeached! It's now officially on record that this crap won't stand!"
Democrats, January 13, 2021: "Impeached! Insurrection? Are you fucking kidding us?! We are officially on record again that this just won't stand!"
Democrats, May 2025: "Alright, that's it. We didn't want to have to do this, but I think we might just have to go on record again… Let the record show that all this gestures wildly everywhere is straight-up terrible, and it won't stand!"
…

They gonna get him this time for sure. It's freaking over!!

Won't matter, won't change anything or cause so much as a held fart by the fat orange fuck.
Until apathetic Americans get off their asses and vote in primaries, local elections and general elections that aren't just about president.
Local elections impact who's a judge, impact who's a state house or senator -- those are who determine state laws -- including participation in the NPVIC -- as well as Board of Education members banning your books.
Primaries are where you pick who's the good candidate for the general.
Are you sick of the trash candidates, are you sick of Chucky giving stern looks at most to push back against fascist agendas? It's the primary.
It's the local elections that determine districts. It's the small local elections and state elections that either enable or fight gerrymandering.
Stop bitching about how things are and take action.