TIL turn signal neglect is twice as dangerous as distracted driving

www.clickondetroit.com Society of Automotive Engineers study says turn signal neglect results in twice as many crashes as distracted driving

In a revealing new report published by the Society of Automotive Engineers this week at the 2012 SAE World Congress, an in-depth observation study of turn signal rate-of-neglect not only exposes how widespread the problem is, but how simple the solution is.<br> <br>A total of 12,000 turning and lane...

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Published: May 1, 2012 at 2:39 PM

Anyone that rides a motorcycle is aware drivers are bat shit toxic narcissists that will do anything in their vehicle other than drive.

It’s all me me me, only I matter, fuck everyone else.

Phone addicts.
- We need to start arresting people for directed driving just like we do with DUI
  
  I’d go for the distracted drivers first, the jury’s still out on the directed ones.
- I live next to a busy street. Most cars going by are like white noise. It’s the motorcycles you can hear from like half a mile away.
Unless I'm missing something, I'm guessing a lot of the not-using-turn-signal idiots are also distracted on their phone. There must be significant overlap on that Venn diagram.
- Also overlapped with the people who think that if you miss your exit, the correct response is to swerve across four lanes of traffic and across road markings, so that you don't have to just go one stop further and turn around.
The smart turn signal is a good idea, when I first read it I thought it would be an automatic thing based on where the vehicle wheels are positioned but it looks to just be an audible and visual reminder. That's still cool, I think annoying people has proven a pretty good way to get them to do something.
- Mirror, signal, manouver.
  
  Turning the wheel is a manouver. You should indicate BEFORE turning the wheel to INDICATE your intention.
  
  I see a lot of drivers start a manouver THEN indicate which is pointless as I have already worked out what the idiot is doing.
  
  In the US, the standard is to signal first, then check your mirrors/blind spots, then go, which is even better, IMO.
  
  That's in theory, of course. Plenty of drivers can't seem to manage that.
  
  I learned SMS. Signal, Mirror, Shoulder check (blind spots)
Add crossing multiple lanes for turns/exits/no apparent reason at all to the list, while you’re at it.
I feel the lack of signal use is thinking you'll be doing something quickly and you don't see anyone where you'll be turning. That's also exactly why we need to be signing though.
- Exactly. This is why I don't bother washing my hands when there's nobody else in the bathroom.
I'm not buying that conclusion.
Ban cars
- I love when people just repeatedly say the same infeasible solutions over and over again
  
  Definitely helps out the cause and doesn’t make people bitter towards the idea
  
  Unless that’s what you’re going for ig
  
  Ban cars is a lot like saying defund the police
  
  It makes a whole lot of sense when you stop and examine the reasoning, but it masks the wide reaching social and infrastructure reforms needed to accomplish it with a short meme that people misinterpret.
  
  You're not wrong. I should say more than that. Cars are a systemic issue that has seeped it's way into every aspect of society here in the US. Everything is really far apart and outside of major cities there is no public transit that is quick and reliable so the only way to get around is to drive. Now everyone needs to buy and maintain a large vehicle. It's expensive and takes up a lot of space in an extremely inefficient way. So inefficient that no highway could ever dream of transporting as many passengers as a single bus or train. The expense disproportionately effects poor people as the cost of a car doesn't go down and just takes up a higher percentage of your income. Essentially being the reason you can't ever save money and simultaneously the only thing bringing money in.
  
  Don't forget about the climate effect it causes, and electric cars only sort of help.
- Horse and buggy renaissance! LET'S GOOOOO
BMW owners
- If a BMW has a signal light on, you can be pretty sure it was purchased in that condition.
I wonder if they were to repeat the study now, over 10 years later, if anything would have changed.

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