Imagine only being allowed to upvote something?
Imagine only being allowed to upvote something?
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Imagine only being allowed to upvote something?
This post was made by Fediverse gang.
Removing downvoting feels intuitively wrong to me (eg, I believe that dissent is a really important part of a healthy democracy). If all those mega-corp platforms are removing downvoting, then I'm pretty confident my intuition on this matter is correct
Is Reddit getting rid of down votes?!
Well that's depressing, I went over to seattle on old and it had a lot of content. It doesn't show any votes if you're not signed in.
If so, that’s just hilarious.
I suspect soon they'll remove voting altogether, replaced by a measure of how long it held attention.
Their ranking algorithm very clearly leans on a relative engagement metric pretty heavily, and has for a while.
Yes now that engagement is directly monetized, you’re likely correct
And it happened right when it became apparent that we were living in the Disinformation Age and every bit of power to flag bullshit content became that much more important.
My fediverse instance removed downvotes 😔
That genuinely sucks and helps misinformation spread. It's part of the reason reddit went downhill after they did that.
Beehaw does the same. I'm not sure if that's been the case in our instance. I don't inherently disagree, but I'm not 100% sold either.
If there's a clearly bad/misinformed/rude take, they simply don't get voted on. They rarely have more than the single 1 vote of their terrible opinion/sharing.
It's common to see +10 to +30 on a positive comment, with the comment it's responding to at 1.
I don't disagree that it could be a bad thing, but I think it's about the community and its practice surrounding it as well. So far in my experience on the instance I participate in I've seen it be effective.
Also I'm not sure if this is a thing on Lemmy but on reddit there were downvote farmers. Downvoting could also actually encourage people to perform these terrible comments to accumulate as many downvotes as they can. Downvoting disabled removed this problem in its entirety. Reddit has this issue long before some of its other problems and it has only grown since, up til I left. I don't know what the state of it is now, and I'm not sure how big of an issue it even is on Lemmy. It comes down to finding the line between what is preferable.
All in all, I think there are good and bad things about not having a downvote. I do think downvote disabled helps some aspects (engagement, active/trending posts) but it could also negatively influence federated content (spam, bad actors). I don't think a comment being at -30 is any more telling than the same comment at 1 when it's surrounded by +30 upvoted comments. However, if someone actively sought out getting downvoted, that can no longer exist.
IMO trading having bad comments be visibly negative in order to prevent the downvote farmers is a reasonable exchange
That genuinely sucks and helps misinformation spread.
I don't see how. What I think is that it makes a less toxic environment.
Go to another instance then. ¯(ツ)/¯
Good thing Lemmy 1.19 now has account migration support.
I downvote stuff from communities that removed it from my instance and Sync for Lemmy lol, or at least I have never noticed the lack of the feature.
Nice! When did that happen?
I think mine did too, I was thinking it was taken away from me specifically for some reason but this makes more sense
Karma is fake anyway.
I don't care about Karma, I care about comments being sorted by general usefulness.
Just downvoted your post. Hah! Checkmate 👍
Just updooted your comment. Bow chica wow wow.
Joke's on you. I really liked that!!
Aren't certain instances on Lemmy downvote disabled? I swear I've been on certain magazines on Kbin or the Fediverse where it's disabled by default.
Hexbear.net (spun off from r/chapotraphouse, banned on Reddit in 2019 for fascist propaganda), has downvotes disabled on their entire instance, so that's one. Please note that though they claim to be "leftist," their users' primary focus is spreading right wing propaganda via strawman and red herring tactics, usually in swarms.
Your take on Hexbear is absolutely correct
It's also something I've pointed out in the past that netted me bans on other instances (not just the community but the whole instance)
My instance has down votes disabled as well and it's something that has made me want to switch instances at times. Not to mention the admin really wanting to federate with Hexbear which is absolutely not popular with the users on the instance.
Can you point me at the right wing propaganda on hexbear? Someone elsewhere in this thread said blahaj has downvotes disabled so that might be two.
It’s interesting to me that hexbear disabled downvotes because of downvoting campaigns against lgbt users, cultivated a culture of replying instead, federated with blahaj, broke with blahaj and now blahaj ostensibly removed downvotes.
Queer instance main sequence?
They were actually banned from reddit for posting “John Brown was right” memes implying that the radical abolitionist was correct to kill slaveowners. They can be excessive and annoying but they’re certainly not fascists.
banned on Reddit in 2019 for fascist propaganda
lol is this what you think happened?
That's the great thing, you can choose to join whichever instance you want or make your own.
Yes
Wait. Did they actually remove the downvote on reddit?
No. Just doesn't display downvotes counts anymore.
Have they ever (in the last 5 years)? I thought it's always a total amount type of counter instead of the way lemmy does it.
Tbf I was using a 3rd party client or the new ui so pardon if it's only the old ui.
Yeah the amount of posts I see just sitting at zero when all the comments are negative about the post is staggering
I've even down voted some just to see them pop right back to zero
No, some instances have downvotes disabled here on lemmy.
No
Not being able to downvote is genuinely awful, I'd almost rather they get rid of upvotes before downvotes
at least in capitalism u still can spread hate for free (yet)
Hate is good. Hate generates traffic. Traffic is money. Hate is money. Money is good.
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