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What is your honest opinion on EndeavourOS?

I made a post a few days ago asking your opinion on Manjaro and it was very mixed, with a slightly negative overall opinion. I heard some recommend EndeavourOS instead and did some online research and it seems to be pretty solid and not have the repository problem that Manjaro has.

Just for context I am a Linux noob and have only used Mint for about the past six months. While I don't have any major complaints, I am looking to explore more distros and the Arch repository with its rolling releases. I am not a huge fan of how certain packages on apt are a few years old and outdated. However, I also don't have the time to be always configuring my OS and just want something that works well out of the box.

Is EndeavourOS a solid choice?

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  • Here's the thing with Arch-based distros: they aren't more stable than Arch, and Arch breaks. Fixing Arch is often possible, but requires Terminal skills. You mentioned you want Arch because of the AUR, why not try Distrobox? It's a tool for integrating containers (and their apps) with the "base" system. With a few commands, create an Arch container, then just use your favourite AUR wrapper (like yay or pacman) as you would on a regular Arch system and you may need to run `distrobox-export ' in the container. Your apps will just show up like any other apps.

  • The out of date package problem you're running into is because Mint is based on the LTS version of Ubuntu. This means that it's set up for long term service and stability. All well and good if that's what you're after.

    As to your problem, I'm not big on Endeavor - or any Arch based distro - for folks who are new to Linux. Unless you're willing to take the time to use Arch itself and set up your system, and learn how it all comes together, you're better off not using Arch. I know I'll get shouted down for this, but IMHO, all of the easy install Arch based distros are terrible for people new to linux.

    If your biggest issue is that the software versions aren't as up to date as you'd like, then all you really need to do is switch to a non-LTS. I'd recommend Fedora. I use it myself, and it's easy to set up, works great out of the box, and is up to date. They come out with a new version twice a year, and upgrades run smoothly.

    If you're really focused on a rolling release, though, I'd suggest looking at OpenSuse Tumbleweed. It's rolling, super stable, and has a fantastic community. Their Yast tools are famous and really impressive.

    Alternately, take the time to install a proper Arch setup. You'll learn a ton, and find out that all that maintenance stuff you feel like you don't have time to do isn't that big a deal, really.

  • I use EndeavourOS and OpenSuse tumbleweed myself, and I'd caution you about using endeavour. It's a great OS that I personally love but there will be manual interventions you'll have to keep track of, and implement. Maybe twice yearly. Like the grub issue, or the repo migration for two recent examples.

    OpenSuse tumbleweed however is a rolling release distro that's more stable, takes little in the way of manual interventions, and is quite sleek out of the box. I use it as a work partition for freelance dev work personally.

    I love endeavour, but it can take some more babysitting than other distros as it's essentially just a really good graphical arch installer

  • It's great. I'm on vanilla Arch now, but EOS would be my first choice if I ever wanted to change to another arch-based distro. The only time I ever encountered any issue (that's not my fault) was the grub issue last year iirc. Other than that, it's been pretty smooth. It's basically Arch with a few QOL features preinstalled.

    Edit: just like you, I was on Mint for years before switching to EOS. It's easy, don't worry. You'll want to start reading, though. The wiki and aur are great.

  • I've been using it since it succeeded Antergos (2019ish) and I've really enjoyed it, I use it on most of my systems! It has really sane defaults and makes for a good Arch experience that doesn't involve setting things up yourself. If you like XFCE, they have the best out of the box theming I've seen a distro have for it, but there are other DEs that you can pick (I think you need internet access during the install IIRC).

    It has its own repository that has some nice apps in it (like AUR helpers). The community around the distro is also really good, whenever I've come across an issue posted on the forums everyone seems really chill and noob friendly.

    Other than that, it's basically a GUI Arch installer (an amazing one at that!) that doesn't get in your way and it just works. There's been probably one problem, in the four years I've used it, that wasn't caused by me breaking things (the grub incident), but the distro's response to that was very well done.

    The only other distros I use are Arch and Debian, but EndeavourOS is always my recommendation for people newer to Linux. It just works.

  • It has been for me, however no matter which distro you ultimately choose, on Arch I'd very strongly advice to use btrfs as your file system and snapper with snap-pac for snapshotting. It gives you a relatively straightforward way to recover in case you encounter a broken update. At least if it only breaks to a point where your kernel / tty and snapper are still alive and well.

    It's very easy to set up, but if your really want it out of the box (and even with bootable snapshots), you could give Garuda Linux a try. I'd advice to have a look at the different versions, especially Dr43gonized and KDE minimal. Dr43onized Gaming is very bloated and only good to get to know some cool software imo.

  • I'm running EndeavourOS on a little Ryzen box I got for a desktop. It's fine. They have their own mirrors hosting some different core packages than base Arch, and it seems pretty stable. I haven't had any issues other than some missing PGP keys once.

    That said: I've been using Arch-based distros for a while - I have a half dozen different servers running Arch, and a laptop running Artix. After installation, I haven't used any EndeavourOS tooling. I do most maintenance from the command line, and I use a tiling window manager. So my experience doesn't really stress test the EneavourOS configuration, or any of the tooling it provides.

    TLDR; It's stable enough.

  • I've been using EndeavourOS for a little over a year, and I am very pleased with my experience so far. The only issue I've encountered was a GRUB problem, which I had to fix manually using the terminal.

  • It's great if what you want is Arch Linux and everything that comes with it. Things might break from time to time.

    If you want something more stable I'd go with Fedora or Debian.

  • It's very good but as it's Arch based, there will be some manual work required. If you want to try a rolling release without the fiddling, try openSUSE Tumbleweed.

  • It's great! I'm using it as my daily driver on my desktop. Haven't run into any issues so far. It comes with some handy tools like a one click updater. So general maintenance is very easy.

  • I had already used other linux distros for a while but never arch (or arch based systems), so I decided to give EndeavourOS a try and I am really liking it, it's pretty solid for me. I am currently using it with Gnome in my personal laptop and I really just needed to configure gnome (my extensions and such), nothing about endeavour especifically.

    That being said, EndeavourOS does not ship with a graphical package management tool by default so it's up to you to choose one or just use the command line to manage your packages (if you're new to Linux it can sound complicated at first but it's quite simple when you get used to it).

    There are other solid and "noob-friendly" rolling-release distros like Fedora and OpenSUSE Tumbleweed, but if you want arch, EndeavourOS is an excellent choice.

  • Its is pretty solid choice for arch users . It is like what mx linux is like to debian.Its good for beginner to try out arch though when you are using arch you kind of have to be always ready if something goes wrong.

  • I went to EndeavourOS with i3WM (from dual boot Windows/ Ubuntu) and have been loving the experience. It's really helped push my boundaries with learning Linux.

  • Endeavour is great, but not always smooth sailing.

    However, I also don’t have the time to be always configuring my OS and just want something that works well out of the box.

    You might have some of that ahead. I had to dive into configs to get things like trackpad scrolling and gestures work on my laptop. I eventually switched to Fedora on that machine when an update broke the bootloader and I couldn't be arsed to fix it.

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