Putin says past U.S. elections were rigged
Putin says past U.S. elections were rigged
"In the United States, previous elections were falsified through postal voting ... they bought ballots for $10, filled them out, and threw them into mailboxes without any supervision from observers, and that's it," Putin said, without providing evidence. Putin's opponents say the March election in ...
(Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin, running for a new six-year term in an election that his opponents say is a parody of democracy, said on Tuesday that past U.S. elections had been rigged by postal voting.
"In the United States, previous elections were falsified through postal voting ... they bought ballots for $10, filled them out, and threw them into mailboxes without any supervision from observers, and that's it," Putin said, without providing evidence.
Ah yes, a Putin, the bastion of honesty and truth.
Well, this one is a confession from him
Pot calling Kettle black, but he ain't even wrong.
Not even getting into the Brooks Brothers Riots or Operation Eagle Eye or the straight explicit rigging of Jim Crow, the modern political class fully endorses rigging elections
Putin knows the US elections can be rigged because he's had his hands on the levers of power. But he's hardly unique in that regard. Certainly, not given how we've eviscerated the Voting Rights Act over the last twenty years.
So weird that Trump and Putin have the exact same opinions. Do you think Trump is controlling Putin?
I wish.
President for life speaks about elections being a bad thing.
Putin dying will be a holiday.
I mean he should know since he was one of the people paying to influence the election.
Say it with me kids, Projection.
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phew I thought Russian elections were rigged too, glad to hear that is not the case, what a real relief
And he wouldn't lie would he. Internationally known as being a reasonable person that he is.
God, what a stupid article, why the hell was this even reported? Oh never mind it's Yahoo news, that's why
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I never really understood this. Why do an election when the electoral college decides who the winner is?
I'm not a US American.
The electoral college complicates things by having each state be its own separate popular vote.
Two states, Nebraska and Maine, will split their electoral votes based on their popular vote. But the rest of the states just give all their electoral votes to their popular vote winner.
The core issue is that a presidential candidate can win 50.1% of the vote in a state and will receive all electoral votes as if 100% of the state voted for him.
A secondary issue is that electoral votes aren't equal. Each state has a minimum of three electoral votes. This creates a situation where Wyoming, a state who's population is smaller than our capital Washington D.C., has more voting power per person per electoral vote than California; the most populous state.
The original thinking was the electoral college could stop any truly disastrous votes. But we've seen how that goes! Now we're stuck with it because it helps one party and would require a constitutional amendment to abolish, and too few people in power are interested in doing what's right for the country - they're interested in doing what's right for their party.
(For another example of the "party first" mentality that has taken over: Washington, DC residents have no vote in Congress. This seems like an obvious thing to fix, give them a two members of the House and two Senators....but whoa, we can't do that, it would change the balance of power in Congress! Seriously. That's why DC residents have no real voice in Congress. For clarity, their votes do count for the Presidential election.)
It all goes back to slavery. The South has lower population and wouldn't sign the constitution unless they had a handicap to ensure they were able to keep owning people. As more states entered the country the slavers got worried about the likelihood of slavery being made illegal. Look up Bleeding Kansas for more info.
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Originally the electors were actually meant to deliberate. It was supposed to be a no party system.
In practice the electors have never demonstrated any independence from the political power that sent them there.
Then you have states having to figure out how they select those electors, under the eyes of voters. Back then the representative to voter ratio was a lot smaller so losing your seat was a lot easier. So they did the politically reasonable thing and made the electors an elected position.
It wasn't long before that transformed into candidates selecting their electors, and people just selecting the candidate on the ballot.
So electoral college remains now as a compromise between large population states and small population states. And the backup. Which is supposed to be Congress voting by state, is similarly population balanced because they get one vote per state in that instance.
This all made a lot of sense in a semi-decentralized country that wasn't supposed to have parties. Unfortunately parties formed literally right away. Also, since the Civil War we've been a lot more centralized. But we're stuck with old voting systems because if we held a Constitutional Convention to update it then the Republicans would do stupid shit.
if it was a popular vote, the parties would apply entirely different strategies in elections,
Sure. Strategies would change to appeal to popular opinion rather than focusing forever on maximizing campaign contributions.
Once again proving the old adage that every accusation from the fascists is a confession, in Russia too.
Hey Putin, we're all saving up for the gigantic party we're gonna throw when you blow your (meager collection of) irradiated brains out all over your disheveled office.
Also the table you use for meetings is SMALL!
This post is disinformation
He didn't say that?
How so?
It lies on you to verify your claim is factual
I mean
The Bush family rigged W's election against AI Gore. Why did that get swept under the rug?
If by rigged you mean they stole it in broad daylight and got SCOTUS to aid in that then yeah. We haven't forgotten.
Because russian elections are the most transparent ones!!
$10 a ballot sounds steep. I wonder if they offered a Costco sized box for cheaper? Maybe people should look for ballots off a knock-off site.
I saw an empty slot at my Costco where the Kirkland ballots were supposed to be
He would know. He was the one providing the outside interference
Cool story.
Why is it so hard for people to judge credibility? It's just (1) listen to a statement, (2) ask if what a person is saying directly benefits them and (3) if it does, require evidence to believe it.
We know this is not credible because by saying it, Putin diverts attention from his own corrupt election and normalizes election fraud. So did he provide evidence? No. So it should be ignored.
Can't we all just... Do that?
“Nooo, you don’t understand. I agree with what he says, so I don’t need evidence”
- MAGA idiots
So, Putin and Trump are on the same page...? Color me surprised.
He should know.
oops! he forgot to activate the Trump puppet first, lol
I had to double take to make sure it wasn't Jokes and Humor but actually World News
Seeing Putin Gaddafi'd is on my bucket list.
Putin’s the type of dude who would steal your wallet and then help you look for it
and I would know because I helped rig them!
And watch MAGA eat this shit up.
Why would putin lie about such a thing? I'm going to blindly believe him since it confirms my existing beliefs.
Elections have been rigged for a long, long time. Gerrymandering is absolutely insane. Cities with meandering sections cut off. Disadvantaged suburbs slammed into afluent areas across town to dilute the votes.
But not rigged in the way Putin and the Republicans claim. Rigged in ways that help them.
He's right you know. He's just not saying it's the Republicans who are benefitting.
Supreme Court nominations, Republicans benefit. Voter suppression/intimidation, Republicans benefit.
Recounting elections (Gore vs Bush), Republicans benefit.
Tossing votes before they get counted, Republicans benefit.Articles like this just prove that this country isn't really paying attention anymore. Everybody has mentally checked out. And I don't blame them, this is exhausting. But it's all to the Republicans benefit.
Source: Trust me bro Trump.
Of course I know him. He's me!
And these stupid americans would pay for something that is completely free with our revolutionary Distant Electoral Voting system based on a blockchain technology!
Interesting.
Seems like they're going to be shooting for an off election cycle coup, since their last one failed and its not quite time for the next window of opportunity.
The supreme court taking up Trumps case the most significant case in the history of the United States. It will decide if our constitution has any real meaning (in some ways, it determines the tests the very legitimacy of constitutionalism as a system). The language of the constitution, and the interpretation of this amendment is very cut and dry. No one can reasonably argue it wasn't designed, and intended to prevent Trump or Trump-like candidates. It was an insurrection against the United States of America. He not only partook in it, he led it, supported it.
So this may be a signal that Putin thinks the Supreme Court will rule against Trump. Go ahead and start seeding the doubt around the next election cycle now.
It may also be a sign for something far more nefarious, that perhaps rather than allowing a ruling to happen, Trump goes for a coup-in-name-only, makes the claim that the election was stolen, and that he is 'President-in-Abstentia' sitting in Moscow. Then gets his lackies to make road blocks across the country, idk.
You don't need rigged elections if you have secret services with mindcontrol technology, the political actors will just be good looking marionettes at the end of the day, the perfect fascist wet dream comes to reality..
5 dollars?! Get outta here...
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