Egypt Has Betrayed Palestinians in Their Time of Greatest Need

That headline could have been written any time throughout the last century. Egypt, and all other Arab nations for that matter have never given a flying fuck about the Palestinians.

This is the reason for Palestinian refugee camps still remaining in Lebanon, Jordan & Syria. They don't want them to integrate.
- Israel definitely want evacuated Palestinians to give up on returning home and integrate into other countries.
  
  Forcing Palestinians to do this is one of the definitions of genocide.
  
  If someone is suggesting that refugees become citizens of other countries of other countries automatically then that's actually enabling a genocide.
  
  This is the problem with looking at solutions on the small scale when the problem is large scale.
  
  Every individual in those refugee camps would likely have a better life if they "integrated" into another country. It's easy to say those people should get a better life.
  
  But "integrating" into another country is also the language used to suggest the abandonment of culture and claim to their former home.
  
  They are refugees because their homes have been under constant blockade or attack for decades. It's time to give them their homes back.
- Do you have any clue what's going on?
Saudi ruler Faisal cared in 1970s by shutting down oil supply and promptly received a bullet to the head

Egypt used to semi care until it has now become a full American puppet state with Sisi having attended American war College before staging a coup in 2013 and receiving 1 billion in arms a year to surpress his population with. (and multiple other billion dollar "loans").

Qatar Lebanon and Yemen still care though. And aside from the rulers the population of those other Arab countries do as well.
- Egypt and Jordan have a complicated history here with Black September (and similar events in Egypt). Radical extremists went with Palestinian refugees to Egypt and Jordan, and they caused civil war and disruption. Most notably in Jordan, where the king was assassinated iirc.
  
  Of course, this is no excuse for them not taking refugees, but I understand their reticence. Having a comprehensive screening process to make sure that bad actors can't get in would be the solution.
- They only care in much the same way that the US cares about Ukraine. Because it hurts their enemy.

Being reported as a "low quality source", while they officially are categorized as "mixed credibility":

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/truth-out/

"Overall, we rate Truthout strongly Left Biased based on story selection and political positions that favor the left. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting due to publishing a false story and promoting anti-GMO propaganda. (5/15/2016) Updated (D. Van Zandt 12/01/2022)"

That distinctly anti-science angle doesn't seem to apply here, so I'll allow it.

Interesting. I’ve never seen their anti-science stiff
- Yeah, me either, but GMO stuff sets peoples hackles up so it doesn't surprise me.
Blanket Anti-GMO hysteria is bad of course but there are arguments to be made against things like terminator seeds being used as monopoly tools and pesticide resistant GMOs enabling overuse of them.
- Or Monsanto seeds that spread and are billable:
  
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto_legal_cases
  
  But that's different from the whole "GMO causes cancer!!!!" nonsense.
  
  The folks who get all up in a bind don't realize that humans have been modifying crops since... well, since we invented crops. :)
  
  Someone posted "maize" to lemmy as an example of what humans have done. Lemmy see if I can find it...
  
  Edit Looks like it was removed for linking to FB, but here's a screenshot:

It’s sad for Palestinians but at the same time Egypt's stance is quite understandable.

I've mentioned this before, but there's actually a pop conspiracy theory that the intel Israel used during the 6 day war was actually given by Egypt's own generals which is why they also allegedly refused to allow C&C to alert their airfields of the huge first wave attack that Jordan had detected for them.

Supposedly they had already formed an agreement to allow Israel to do their thing so they could sack Nasser. The plan technically backfired since Nasser was popular with support so he had them arrested.

Didn't really help Egypt either way in the end because both sides were still just ill experienced military people with no real combat experience. Today the military still runs the country in the form of Sisi who is considered a joke by practically every foreign dignitary.

I guess they care about Palestine as much as the Pakistani army cares about Kashmir.

Black September anyone or was that a conspiracy theory by the CIA?

Womp… womp?

Israel isn't commiting genocide genocide happens when 1 race of pepole trys to 100% eradacate another like the natzis who went door to door killing jews palistine knew what they were in for when they started launching missiles in the early 2000 then 20 years later somone gets the idea to send in a ground force to kidnape and murder and now Israel won't put up with this shit anymore and palistine crys genocide its like the school yard bully who beats on kids in the school yard and when one gets the balls to defend himself he runs to tell the teacher

I think you need a lesson of history, so I will mix two of my older comments here:

Israel became an actual state in 1948 by displacing 750 000 Palestinian people and murdering many (men, women and children). Laying sieges, bombarding villages and population centers, setting fires to homes, properties and goods. Planting mines among the rubble to prevent any of the expelled people from returning (source: The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by ilan Pappé).

Now Hamas did not exist until 1987, they became an actual group only in 1987 because of all the actions Israel had done from 1948 up until 1987. Which is approximately 39-40 years after what Israel had done to the Palestinian people.

From this we can conclude that Hamas did not start this but Israel did and that Hamas is fighting back.

Israel is currently doing:

Stealing land

Ethnic cleansing

Genocide

Calling Palestinians rats, animals and more cruel things

Wanting to erase the entire Palestinian race

Lying to the world

They think they are “superior” than Palestinian people

They think and say that Palestinian people are, the “inferior” race

Apartheid

Sent Palestinian people jail/ prison for no reason (even kids)

Beat Palestinian people for no reason or provoke to “get a reason”

Does these things ring a bell? I’m sure it does because the Nazis were doing the same thing.

There's an image which shows the very similarities between Nazis and Israel government.

EDIT: correcting words & adding more info.
- Should probably add that Israel propped up Hamas specifically because they made for a more unsympathetic enemy than the more moderate groups in the region.
- I wish my fellow Indians could read this. They are so drowned in hatred for muslims that they forgot what happened to us 200 years ago. A lot of people here think enemies of muslim countries are their friends. This far right fascist shit needs to go from the world.
- Why did the Palestinians reject the Peel commission partition (and every subsequent two state proposals)? We can't go back in time. Its unfortunate, but Israel is there now. The question is what should we do now? Genuinely curious. I'm not saying this in defense of Israel. It's where we are now.
  
  Edit: also, Israel has done its fair share of atrocities, but there is plenty of blame to go around. It's not like Hamas and the PLO are free of any criticism. Whenever I see posts unilaterally condemning one side my spider senses start tingling.
UN Article 2 of the Convention on Genocide defines genocide as:

... any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

— Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Article 2[7]
- UN is Hamas
  
  E: This is a joke, a play on the "X is Hamas" phrase that we've been hearing by some Israeli politicians.
Are you going for some sort of ignorance/callousness/pure inability to understand events and context combo record?

Because if you are, it was a pretty good effort. If you're not, you should stfu while the adults who value human lives are talking.
- checks their 2w post history
  
  Oof.
Lmao, started in the early 2000's?

No. This has been going on since 1948 when Israeli settlers decided to violently expel Palestinians from the land they wanted. And they haven't stopped since.

And then there's the issue of trying to justify a genocide by minimizing the actions being taken in Gaza and then saying the collective punishment is okay because of something Hamas did.
- Just to add: Arab countries also expelled roughly 900k jews in 20th century.
  
  So whilst Israel's actions weren't right, many Arab countries did literally the same, so they are the last ones that can blame Israel for that.
- Only since 1948? The fight over Israel has been for hundreds, if not thousands of years.
- On another note, you should know there are 2 million Arabs living peacefully inside Israel as citizens with full rights. So it's hard to argue for an ethnic cleansing case, even though what is happening in Gaza is bordering o genocide.
so if someone bullys someone else and victim finally snaps and starts hitting the bully with a knife, that is completely ok in your book because bully deserved it? Or bully's relatives because regular people in palestine arent ones shooting the missiles nor do they likely have much say in it.
Israel became an actual state in 1948 by displacing 750 000 Palestinian people and murdering many (men, women and children). Laying sieges, bombarding village and population centers, setting fires to homes, properties and good. Planting mines among the rubble to prevent any of the expelled people from returning (source: The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by ilan Pappé).

They are doing the nearly the same thing - if not the exact same thing.

Israel is doing:

- Stealing land

- Ethnic cleansing

- Genocide

- Calling Palestinians rats, animals and more cruel things

- Wanting to erase the entire Palestinian race

- Lying to the world

- They think they are “superior” than Palestinian people

- They think and say that Palestinian people are, they “inferior” race

- Apartheid

- Sent Palestinian people jail/ prison for no reason (even kids)

- Beat Palestinian people for no reason or provoke to “get a reason”

Does these things ring a bell? I’m sure it does because the Nazis were doing the same thing.

There's an image which shows the very similarities between Nazis and Israel government.