2023 Dutch Grand Prix - [RACE] discussion thread

What a horrible weekend for Charles.

Wet tires will probably never be used (unless enforced), even if the conditions are clearly full wet.

Teams are so greedy with staying on the inters so that even if some drivers pit for full wets, the race will inevitably be red flagged because someone staying on the inters will crash, which then makes you look silly for pitting for full wets a lap or two earlier.

Granted that they reinstated the positions of the previous lap so Perez is actually fine, but let Zhou crash one lap later and Red Bull would've been punished with Perez for doing the right thing for safety and to try and keep the race going.

When Alpine gets on the podium

Max on radio: 😃

Alonso on radio:😏😀

Gasly on radio: 😁😁😁😁🤯🤯🤯🤯😎😎😎

Speaking as a dutchie. There really is no crowd better than the dutch at setting a great mood. Especially in bad weather.

VER PER ALO

Nature is healing.

For those who are complaining: Jules Bianchi died under similar conditions in Suzuka 2014.

Why are they so obsessed about the Max-Perez pit stop. It wouldn’t matter, Max would pass Perez in a couple of laps anyways. He got the gap down from 10 to 2.5 sec.

So happy for Gasly.

Merc nightmare of a strategy, wow.

According to Dutch social media the DJ started his Red Flag set with a song about "raining beer".

That slowmo of the redbull pit stop was incredible

The fact they booked a live singer for the Dutch anthem shows a lot of confidence. Not that the confidence is misplaced of course.

F1TV has been referencing memes throughout the broadcast, the cooldown room was announced as "time for the podcast".

Man if I ever have enough money to go to an F1 race then I'm definitely going to the Dutch Grand Prix

Crowd singing along to "Que Sera, Sera", the DJ is on point.

Sargeant’s going to pull out a picnic basket lol

Perez restarts as 3rd.

Whatever weather god: ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?

Absolute disaster for Tsunoda. Couldn't have imagined the race going any worse for Yuki if I tried.

Man, Williams have utterly screwed the pooch this weekend.

If Albon had pitted for inters like everyone else he potentially would have been on the podium going into the second lot of rain.

Then with the second lot of rain they leave him out too long again and kick him down from 6th to 9th which they compound by putting him on inters when its clear full wets

Then they get him stuck in the damn pits.

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For anyone wondering.

Most pit stops in an F1 race, 88, 2011 Hungarian Grand Prix

we are at 35-36 so far if my maths is right

edit: 35, confirmed on-screen. need another shower to give a chance of the record :D

They are giving max priority over Perez? Oof

Absolute wild race so far.

Yay, Ferrari!

Ponchos and raincoats reported in the crowd at the start/finish.

Restart in 10 min. I hope everyone will keep it whole

Albon is overtaking on 23 lap old softs 😯

Perez, Leclerc & Russell need to stop crashing into cars/walls. They all threw it away. I feel bad for Albon though, he did everything right, bad luck.

Already more entertainment than the previous two years.

Happy for Gasly!

Did someone say rain? 😁

Jesus christ that rain came from somewhere :o

With rain in the distance I am a bit baffled by Lewis decision to try and do a longer first stint, big time gamble

Poor alonso.

Thank you rain for making the first laps exciting

Can we please get Yuki in the points this race? Is it too much to ask to see Tsunoda with possibly a career best finish?

Ricciardo fans conveniently looked away at that point.

Piastri pitting again? Edit: ah, was his first

Damn that was bad timing

Gotta love the dutch weather. HERE COMES THE RAIN.

Red flag just as Checo changed tires, ffs

Is the director specifically avoiding Lawson? I haven’t seen him on my screen once

Fucking no! I was hoping Tsunoda would have eclipsed his career best. Wonder if Russell is going to pick up a penalty for the contact on the straightaway.

Edit: Here's hoping.

Ah, something else than that godawful Heineken trophy of the previous years.

Lol @ ferrari

What an interesting race so far.

More rain expected in about 20 minutes.

Oh dear, I hope the rain works out in Lando's favor this time.

Noo

Alonso is 3rd, stroll 19th (and by a mile)

Just get stroll out of there, honestly

No grid-walk today?

Man I would love to see Albon or Yuki in the second AM.

Gasly podium :)

What a race. Hope we get a restart.

Loving these changeable conditions!

Rain on Max's visor - probably why he was pushing

It’s like musical chairs out there

Ffs, Red Bull pits Max before Perez.. they really want to lose that P2 in the drivers championship, dont they? Always giving Max preferred treatment

Looks Like Norris just mugged bottas there without even having to slow down

Are you kidding Ferrari. No tires again!?

Ferrari being Ferrari.

Why on Earth would the TV direction show Perez just when Hamilton may have overtaken Sainz

Perez in the wet again...

Gasly podium? He has had an incredible race.

Who's going to replace Sargeant next year? Any guesses?

Did TSU get back past NOR? Who did he overtake last?

Really rooting for Lawson getting points in his debut.

Full wets might pay of for ocon

Sneaky Alonso at the start

Lol at Stefano Domenicali not knowing how to do a high five.

It's always surprising how many McLaren fans there are here. Those stands are packed with papaya.

Let’s see how long Checo can stay in first. Great strategy on inters but redbull

They dropped the ball again for perez.

Man Albon got fucked with that late pit call

My man Zhou on P2, it won't last long, but still: let's enjoy the moment.

With the lack of grip of those mediums I won't be surprised if Lewis crashes

McLaren's lap times are insane...

/me does a rain dance

I went to the kitchen to make a cup of tea, come back, how the hell did George end up 16th :')

Man, Mercedes have got this horribly wrong

Max is really punching it..

Edit: Catching Perez almost as quick as Perez was catching up when first on intermediates.

At least we're seeing Max have to do some overtaking.

Red Bull with the McLaren '07 strategy.

That overtake on Gasly looked like Max pushed him essentially into the wall, why didnt Gasly complain?

Man, just imagine if Albon had actually pitted for inters with everyone else.

Williams very feasibly threw away a podium

20 odd seconds behind Alonso and threw away way more than that

Max on afterburners

It's amazing how everything Redbull touch turns to gold. Pit stops just fell absolutely perfectly.

Also smart, they could have brought Max as team leader in first, but they give the weaker driver the early pit boost, knowing Max can pull it back in from a later stop.

The camera shots on F1 TV make me doubt a lot of drivers will pit for inters. Didn't seem like a lot of rain was on the horizon.

...did Zhou just go from one set of softs to another?

Fairweather fans are going to love picking and choosing after this one.

The McLaren's sure look good in racing conditions. What a fantastic driver pairing too.

Only down for Albon, is having made those softs last so long, he has no choice but to go onto under performing mediums

Norris already 2s back from ham?

Wow, Red Bull doing a Ferrari

Perez angling for the win

Chance of a rain red flag at the end? Will a team angle for it and stay out?

screw it, they should just gamble and put full wets on Albon

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FFS

What happened to Charles?

Gasly thought he himself got another penalty when the team first told him about Perez' penalty lol

Fernando smelling a victory.

I like how they all amically clapped the Prince lol

Glad Russell's out, but also glad he's okay. He should have gotten a penalty in my opinion for the contact on Tsunoda. Now Gasly with the podium finish.

Boo. Let them race.

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For fuck's sake. Let them race on full wets.

EDIT: Sorry. I was a little rash. More frustrated that we had to have a red flag because teams tried to force Inters rather than Full Wets.

Williams are a shitshow. That is all. And I'm honestly not sure Sargeant is up to being a Formula 1 driver.

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